Re: checking this river correct?
 

value betting the river is 1 of the hardest things for me to grasp, I have a weak/tight mentality much of the time and I am terrified by lots of river cards, I am learning to steer away from that mentality and find strength in my hands, I am much better about river bets than I have been in the past but it's part of my game that needs alot of work.

Thank you for the responses, I appreciate your time and consideration.

Re: checking this river correct?
 

nah, it's just that at times I'm not sure people realize that concepts/ideas that are so simple to them might be foreign to someone else.

Re: checking this river correct?
 

I thought there was certainly a possibility he held the A, at this level at Paradise I see alot of passivity, even on the turn in hands like this.

I was in a hand today and bet 2nd pair on the turn, and was HU on the river when an A fell, I again bet my 2nd pair and my opponent did not raise the river even when the A gave him top 2 pair.

I have trouble with a hand like this because I think to myself, "what possible hand did this jerkoff call my PF raise with and continuing to call my flop and turn bets with?" - especially when I'm showing strength by continuing to bet into a board with 2 aces.

If I was on the other end of this hand, I wouldn't be in on the turn if I didn't have an A or a PP.

Re: checking this river correct?
 

that's the thing. they love to call. don't expect them to play like you would. so don't scare yourself into checking behind. it's a rare breed of player that will check call the flop and turn and check rivered quad aces heads up.

expect to see, Kx, Qx, Tx, 5x and any pocket pairs call this river bet.

Re: checking this river correct?
 

value betting the river for you might be as simple as raising with the nuts.

for me it doesn't come that automatic yet, I'm not at the river with 3 aces on board and thinking "he could call me with K high"

Re: checking this river correct?
 

I guess my thought was, if I bet the river and he doesn't have the A, he'll likely fold, so I don't gain a bet, if I bet the river there is a chance I'll be raised.

Part of my problem is I expect them to play better than they do.

Re: checking this river correct?
 

yeah it takes time to get over that, but once you do you'll say to yourself, "damn these guys suck," and you'll bet so hard all the time. then you'll go into your lag phase where you overdo it. then you'll settle down and be awesome. then, girls, money, and beer.

Re: checking this river correct?
 

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some things that might be obvious to you or others aren't so obvious to some of us "n00bs", I wouldn't be posting here and asking questions about my play if I knew all the reasoning behind it.

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Re: checking this river correct?
 

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Re: checking this river correct?
 

If we bet, and are raised, do we re-raise here?
Let's assume no read on the opponent.

What information/read would you need to have to call the raise or to re-raise?

If we are re-raising, and there is no cap, would you take it to the felt with this hand?