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milesdyson 11-14-2005 07:08 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
fold preflop, check flop, check turn. so so bad.

HouseCalls 11-14-2005 07:12 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
*grunch*
Preflop - fold (against 1 raise ok; against 3 not so much)
Flop - ok
Turn - probably check (betting won't make anyone fold in this pot and if your trying to build it (which I wouldn't here) than calling doesn't make much sense after he raises).
River - SSH suggests you have to be more than 95% sure you are beaten to fold here... I'm confident you made the right play [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
PS anyone else notice that huge draws like this never lose in the poker books... hmmmm

Aaron W. 11-14-2005 07:12 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
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Fold preflop. Well, ok, it's 6max, so i guess you can call, but cold calling 2.5 with 6 high is scary. I don't think you hit a big draw often enough to make it worth it.

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This is bad.

TripleH68 11-14-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
I fold preflop when I likely have the worst starters with the worst position.

I know you have a lot of outs but I don't bet the turn either.

Aaron_ 11-14-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
*grunch*

I'm folding this PF. I don't mind the flop bet (since you'll probably trap BB and MP for 2 bets if CO raises and button calls), but you lost some money on the turn. You're presumably 2.1-to-1 to win if all 15 outs are live, and you're not gaining any value even if both opponents call. I'd call the river just to see CO's hand.

UATrewqaz 11-14-2005 07:18 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
That's a good point I didn't even think of. Is the .25 worth the info gained on the CO player for future hands.

McGahee 11-14-2005 07:19 PM

Another Hand
 
I feel like I'd lay this down if I were good.

Paradise Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls.

River: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

milesdyson 11-14-2005 07:21 PM

Re: Another Hand
 
cap flop, fold river. you can't possibly be winning there dude

jrz1972 11-14-2005 07:27 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
You deserved to lose a bunch of money after making that preflop call. That was really bad.

(Directed to the OP, not McGahee).

Aaron_ 11-14-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Folding in a big pot when you know you\'re beat :P
 
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That's a good point I didn't even think of. Is the .25 worth the info gained on the CO player for future hands.

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I think it might - also, you lose a lot of image by fold this. If you fold with 78-to-1, you might encourage some river bluffs in future pots... not something I want to worry about.


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