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Paluka 11-18-2005 11:23 AM

Re: 2 RIVER CHECKRAISES.
 
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note that he most certainly did not pick up a flush draw as i have the Ad.

i didnt really want to mention this because i thought it might make the hand less intersting to discuss, but i called the turn and checked the river in hand 1. intending to call down.
on the river, i just thought my hand was too too strong on this board, so i decided i needed to put in one raise.
i didnt plan this one out, it was an impulsive checkraise.

most of the time i just threebet turn here.

BTW/ if the river goes checkcheck then this guy has less than a K which means he will be folding to a turn threebet.

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You are right. Since you have the Ad and he is really tight this makes this hand sorta boring. But under these assumptions it doesn't really matter what you do I guess.

vmacosta 11-18-2005 01:09 PM

Re: 2 RIVER CHECKRAISES.
 
Most people who cap here with hands like KJo mess this up cuz they never cap with AA/KK. This play works great for Flawless cuz he does.

CardSharpCook 11-18-2005 03:25 PM

Re: 2 RIVER CHECKRAISES.
 
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You can discount KK a lot. This is the level in which people finally realise it's best to raise the flop not turn with KK.

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Gambler why would this be so? My take has always been, "well, I've flopped top set and he's betting into me. He's obviously bluffing. I'll let him bluff the turn too." Is your contention that it is more deceptive to fastplay? But what is the point of fastplaying vs. hands that can't call you down?

1800GAMBLER 11-18-2005 05:07 PM

Re: 2 RIVER CHECKRAISES.
 
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You can discount KK a lot. This is the level in which people finally realise it's best to raise the flop not turn with KK.

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Gambler why would this be so? My take has always been, "well, I've flopped top set and he's betting into me. He's obviously bluffing. I'll let him bluff the turn too." Is your contention that it is more deceptive to fastplay? But what is the point of fastplaying vs. hands that can't call you down?

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I don't know were you got the bluffing from, hero in this hand capped preflop. Most cap ranges are AA KK QQ AK. I want to be raising the flop vs that range.

stoxtrader 11-18-2005 05:09 PM

Re: 2 RIVER CHECKRAISES.
 
i disagree that is "most cap ranges"

1800GAMBLER 11-18-2005 05:36 PM

Re: 2 RIVER CHECKRAISES.
 
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i disagree that is "most cap ranges"

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err ok.

flawless_victory 11-19-2005 08:13 AM

RESULTZZZ
 

hand1, i got threebet. i wanted to fold, but i thought...
-it would be really bad for my image (and it certainly matters in this game)
-i could play AK this way and maybe he could too.
he KK for the nuts and i feel i misplayed this hand.

hand2, the guy thought about 5 seconds and called w/ AT for Ahigh.


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