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brad 02-06-2003 03:46 AM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
well i know hes the least funny guy on the mcglauphlin (mcglocklen) group.

that woman democrat who always get cut off in mid sentence cracks me up the most.

BYE-BYE

heh

andyfox 02-06-2003 03:48 AM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
No doubt an Arab extremist plot would get greater press coverage. The supposedly pro-Palestinian bent of the "liberal" U.S. media is a myth.

andyfox 02-06-2003 03:51 AM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
Well, one could make a good case for all woman Democrats getting cut off in mid-sentence. We could start with Feinstein and Pelosi for starters. They give Democrats a bad name. [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

John Ho 02-06-2003 03:53 AM

What?
 
What about the settlers in the occupied territories? Maybe you call them something else but calling them Zionists isn't far off base.

For example, if there was no Israel and we decided to create one measuring one square block in Palestine would there no longer be Zionists? Does the fact that a nation called Israel exists mean they are satisfied with what they have? The whole tenet is Zionism is the belief that certain lands are God given to the Jews.

The Zionists aren't satisfied yet. Those are the extremists, though. This does not go for all Jews or Israelis.

John Ho 02-06-2003 03:55 AM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
Well, most of the press is liberal in general. But they at least try to objective sometimes unlike Fox News. But clearly they are pro-Israel. Jews are powerful in the Democratic party.

andyfox 02-06-2003 01:13 PM

Re: What?
 
It is usually only those who have an axe to grind who use the term "Zionists." For example, Saddam Hussein has spoken about the Americans and the Zionists being out to get him. He doesn't mean Zionists; he means the Israelis or the Jews. He uses the word Zionists to try to delegitimize the state of Israel.

The whole tenet of Zionism was not that God gave the land to the Jews. There was discussion at the early Zionist colonists of using Uganda as a homeland. Golda Meir, who claimed there were no Palestinians, was an atheist. Zionism claimed that the Jews were a nation, a people, and that their historical homeland was in Zion, i.e., Palestine.

KDF 02-06-2003 02:35 PM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
Though dated Feb.4 , the story itself is old news. The arrest occurred in 2001 if you bothered to read it. This incident is not terrorism. It is nothing more that a means to some psycho-political end. There are specific targets involved. Terrorism involves no specific target(s) only general mass-killing. I do not endorse such things nor defend the criminals behind the activity. I will say that one isolated incident compared with the litany of REAL terrorism committed by those in the name of islam is a weak means to try an conjure up controversy. Perhaps better time is spent learning history and factual reality, not studying the fine art of sensationalism and ‘anti-anything’ nonsense.

brad 02-06-2003 03:37 PM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
no he just pleaded guilty

brad 02-06-2003 03:39 PM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
using definitiom of terrorism in p.a.t.r.i.o.t. act

hudini36 02-06-2003 06:10 PM

Re: will the real terrorists please stand up?
 
This is typical stereotyping of the Jews by the behavior of one indivdiual. Prejudiced people make this mistake all the time. Perhaps the "real" terrorists are individuals, not entire ethnic groups.


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