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krimson 08-23-2005 11:28 AM

Re: Free card, free showdown, or stay aggressive?
 
Bet the turn, bet the river on any non A, T, or spade.

Saint_D 08-23-2005 02:10 PM

Re: Free card, free showdown, or stay aggressive?
 
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Hero??
What's my river line as well?

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I was unsure enough about this one I decided to put it into poker stove.

It looks like the BB will limp just about anything and won't PFR at all. I put in the hands that I think UTG+1 will, A. Limp, B. bet on the flop. C. Not 3 bet on the flop. (this includes slow playing hands)
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
46,164,554 games 83.109 secs 555,469 games/sec

Board: Ts Kh 9s 5h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hero: 42.4442 % [ 00.42 00.01 ] { QsQh }
UTG+1: 37.8593 % [ 00.37 00.00 ] {Limping hands with K, T or 9}
BB: 19.6965 % [ 00.19 00.01 ] { 30% }
</pre><hr />

You have a big pot equity edge against the range of hands these two players hold.

Bet the turn and see what develops. You actually don't want to see the J, since it could give AQ nut strait. And you really don't want to see a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Even if a scare card hits the turn, bet out and call a raise if the turn went by without incident.

-D

detruncate 08-23-2005 03:44 PM

Re: Free card, free showdown, or stay aggressive?
 
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I would bet the turn.. prepared to fold to a raise...

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Folding our gutshot to a turn raise would be bad.

detruncate 08-23-2005 03:56 PM

Re: Free card, free showdown, or stay aggressive?
 
We need to bet/call this turn on such a draw heavy board. Too much chance of giving a free card that will beat us.

I'd usually want to take a free showdown if both call the turn, and I'm obviously folding the river UI if raised on the turn.

I'm less sure about calling a river bet on a blank (no turn raise). It could well be a bluff with a busted draw. I think I call if it comes from UTG+1 and fold if it comes from BB.

checkmate36 08-23-2005 04:51 PM

Re: Free card, free showdown, or stay aggressive?
 
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Bet the turn, bet the river on any non A, T, or spade

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I like this line as well


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