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kidcolin 12-24-2005 01:18 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
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need to get that VP$IP up to 28!

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Why?

DCWildcat 12-24-2005 01:20 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
You are too tight. You can win at 21, but you're missing a ton of profitable situations.

That probably accounts for some, but not all, of the aggro. Calm down on the turn a lot esp.

MattC 12-24-2005 01:29 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
isnt his fold to river bet way too high? like WAYYYY TO HIIIGHH either your calling too many turns or folding way too many winners at the river. supposed to be like 37 or something but its in the 50's!

and yeh your fold bb to steal is sorta high, thats where you can loosen up some considerably, i think a lot of players are in the 45% range?

kidcolin 12-24-2005 01:29 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
I think people really overvalue the high 28-30 VPIP. Guys who maximize with this style are killer postflop.

As it's been mentioned before, some of the greats in the 5/10 game (schneids, nate, ulysses, etc) rocked it hard playing 21 or 22/17. I play about 25/18, but filetered for 6 players it's 22/16.

I guess I'd like to see more insight as to why people strive for a higher VPIP, rather than just "I want to be a 30/20 guy".

RunDownHouse 12-24-2005 02:04 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
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I think people really overvalue the high 28-30 VPIP.

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I completely agree. Furthermore, those that can be most profitable at that high of a VPIP aren't the ones posting "How Do I Increase My VPIP?" posts.

12-24-2005 05:33 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
Thanks guys for all the input. I am a solid winning player yes, but didn't want to make any stats reviewing results orientated.

I play at Prima and not Party which may change your thoughts on the aggression but then again it may not. I don't really know how to change my aggression but what I can do for you guys is to video a session and maybe you can tell me what is wrong.

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TomBrooks 12-24-2005 05:53 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
Yes, do a video.

What times of day do you like for Prima? I find the 1/2 6m there is somewhat tougher than Party.

12-24-2005 05:59 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
It is tougher than party, I play during the day in the UK. Average VP$IP 25-30, average pfr 10-15. average pot 10.

I think there aren't many fish in the day, but I will play till 5am sometimes so I don't really have too many problems hitting soft games later on.

I get 50% Rakeback so I think this is ok. I also like learning to play by playing better people although 1/2 is still not that great.

EDIT : On the good side, me and mackthefork busted up one table for 100+ in an hour. Here is an interesting hand I played with him :

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showth...e=0#Post4271620

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hemstock 12-24-2005 06:12 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
My stats kinda look the same to yours. You do fold to a river bet a bit too much. (mine is 52% [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]). My vpip is ~21 as well but I feel comfortable with whatever I am playing preflop right now. I have to find more profitable situations to raise in, like Q9s after a limper or 2 or something. Your aggression factor is waay to high though.

12-24-2005 06:13 AM

Re: Stats for Fun - 10k hands @ 4 tables.
 
How can I be less aggressive? Therapy? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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