Re: Nine? Calling nine? (table selection, low content)
 

This is a pretty typical hand in micros.

Re: Nine? Calling nine? (table selection, low content)
 

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Is a 98% VPIP even possible? Maybe I'm an idiot, but it seems to me that since seeing a free flop from the BB isn't factored into this stat that this number would have to be under 90% after one orbit.

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If the pot is not raised by the time it gets to the BB, it doesn't count as a chance. You can't Voluntarily Put Money In the Pot if you don't have the chance.

Re: Nine? Calling nine? (table selection, low content)
 

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Is a 98% VPIP even possible? Maybe I'm an idiot, but it seems to me that since seeing a free flop from the BB isn't factored into this stat that this number would have to be under 90% after one orbit.

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If the pot is not raised by the time it gets to the BB, it doesn't count as a chance. You can't Voluntarily Put Money In the Pot if you don't have the chance.

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I know this already.

Let's say that you played at a 10 person table where it was never raised preflop, and you saw every flop, and always checked in the BB. Then you would only Voluntarily put money in the pot 90% of the time. That's why 98% seems unlikely. But I rethunk it, and it is possible, if someone raise your BB, or you raise out of the BB that would count towards your VP$IP.

However I don't think even some of the loosest players could have a 98% VPIP in the long run.

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However I don't think even some of the loosest players could have a 98% VPIP in the long run.

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Depends on your definition of "long." I've got plenty of buddies that PT shows in excess of 90% VPIP, but most of 'em are of the see-'em-first-on-Saturday-run-into-them-again-on-Sunday-man-I-wish-they-would-come-back variety.

This brings up an interesting question...any way to get a report out of PT ranking players by, for instance, VPIP? %Flop Seen?

Edit: never mind, found it. Ok, let's see, I've got a guy with 93.55 VPIP over 93 hands...98.73 over 79 (holy cow, this guy managed to only lose $8.50 at .5/1)...97.67 over 86...90.32 over 124 (actually won 35 cents!)..of course, most of the players in my PT database are only in double-digit hand counts.

Re: Nine? Calling nine? (table selection, low content)
 

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Is a 98% VPIP even possible? Maybe I'm an idiot, but it seems to me that since seeing a free flop from the BB isn't factored into this stat that this number would have to be under 90% after one orbit.

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If the pot is not raised by the time it gets to the BB, it doesn't count as a chance. You can't Voluntarily Put Money In the Pot if you don't have the chance.

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I know this already.

Let's say that you played at a 10 person table where it was never raised preflop, and you saw every flop, and always checked in the BB. Then you would only Voluntarily put money in the pot 90% of the time. That's why 98% seems unlikely. But I rethunk it, and it is possible, if someone raise your BB, or you raise out of the BB that would count towards your VP$IP.

However I don't think even some of the loosest players could have a 98% VPIP in the long run.

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It's the percentage of the time you voluntarily put money in the pot when you have the opportunity to do so.

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I will go ahead and vouch for the +90 VPIP. I was at a table with a player who had 93% after 157 hands in PT. He had a counterpart that had 87%. It was a .25-50 table, and I was able to win 37 bucks there (somehow the 93% guy played almost two hours before leaving and he was down only 5 bucks, amazing)

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It's obvious Button has quads, fold the turn.

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That's weak-tight. The correct play is to cap and river higher quads.

Re: Nine? Calling nine? (table selection, low content)
 

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This is a pretty typical hand in micros.

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It's the percentage of the time you voluntarily put money in the pot when you have the opportunity to do so.

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Lol, I know how VPIP is calculated. I'm saying that you probably aren't going to find anyone with a 98% VPIP with a significant sample size. The OP said that one of the villains was a 98, but I chimed in with that's probably from a small sample.

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correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't it take at least 50 hands to even be able to get 98%?