Re: 100 200 preflop
 

Doubt you're right on this. One of them doesn't have ace high or a pair?

Jeff

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

Call 2 cold. 30/22 is not likely very wild at a 1/2 short game.

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

"One of them doesn't have ace high or a pair?'

no. one of them have ace high or the pair most of the time, but that's not the point. A6o is not a better hand than KQs. neither is 33.

what i said was he has the best starting hand. like if you use sklansky's little hand groupings. KQs is gonna be the +EV favorite too often to not just cap here against their wide range of hands. see?

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

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what i said was he has the best starting hand. like if you use sklansky's little hand groupings. KQs is gonna be the +EV favorite too often to not just cap here against their wide range of hands.

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These aren't the same thing. KQs is a "better hand" than axo, but if you're both showdown committed axo is a smallish money favorite.

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

"if you're both showdown committed"

obviously youre not showdown committed with KQ in a 7 handed game 3 handed pot. but A high in the hands of a bad player oftentimes is, thus adding even more value to hero's KQs.

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

What is wrong with tossing it in the muck?

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

Sure, this play works well when the hands for UTG/MP3/catlover are like 88/ATs/KQs for 32/34/34 equity. But give MP3 AKo and 88/AKo/KQs goes 32/42/26. If UTG happens to have a Q like QJs, QJs/AKo/KQs is the ugly 25/54/21.

Of course getting 3.5-1 is nice tho.

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

i would have capped as well. its better than coldcalling against players who you are unfamiliar with postflop.

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

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What is wrong with tossing it in the muck?

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Probably notihng, but capping seems like a big overplay IMHO.

Re: 100 200 preflop
 

Are you guys saying you'd rather hold 33 or Axo than KQs in this spot?