Re: NIcely formatted chart of the same numbers
 

can you do results for more than one opponent?

I have always been interested what hand rankings would be with 2-9 opponents for each of the sklansky hand groups

Regards,
Brad S

Re: NIcely formatted chart of the same numbers
 

lol. sorry

looking back on that post, I realize that even if it is possible with your current program, that's a lot of work

Still, as long as I'm wishing, I have also wanted rankings that only calculate who's ahead on the flop and the turn.

This would be very useful in my opinion in determining relative hand strengths when you might intend on a 'stop and go' move.

I don't want you to run all these sims for me, but I would be very interested in a program that I could use to do this.

Regards,
Brad S

Re: NIcely formatted chart of the same numbers
 

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can you do results for more than one opponent?

I have always been interested what hand rankings would be with 2-9 opponents for each of the sklansky hand groups

Regards,
Brad S

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Hmm. Not even sure how to formulate that problem. In any case, my current code can't do that.

I am definitely interested in expanding my push/fold strategy results to 3-handed, but I haven't started work on it yet. I'm pretty sure I will use one of these hand rankings as the basis, though, since the vast majority of the time you're going to end up "racing" somebody heads-up.

eastbay

Re: Results are in
 

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Here's the case I'm confused by: when you hold an offsuit non-pair hand and your opponent holds a suited hand that matches both of your cards in rank, how many different hands can he be holding?

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You mean if you hold AKo how many ways can someone hold AKs?
The answer is 2

Great work btw, some interesting info there.

Re: NIcely formatted chart of the same numbers
 

I was noticing the same thing. I find it interesting that the bottom of the list changes so much in the different runs.

Re: Results are in
 

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You mean if you hold AKo how many ways can someone hold AKs?
The answer is 2

Great work btw, some interesting info there.

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Well temper your praise, because I made a mistake somewhere.

For the "you hold offsuit cards" case I get a total of 1224 possible opponent's hands unless I make that number 3 instead of 2.

So here's the cases I'm considering, using AKo as an example:

You hold AKo.
How many AKs can your opponent hold? 2.
How many AKo can your opponent hold?
How many AA?
How many KK?
How many Axs?
How many Kxs?
How many Axo?
How many Kxo?

Is there some other case which is not the usual 6, 4, 12 for pair, suited, offsuit that I'm forgetting?

eastbay

Re: Results are in
 

Assume Ac Kd

How many AKo can your opponent hold?
AdKc AdKh AdKs AhKc AhKs AsKc AsKh
7

How many AA?
AdAh AdAs AhAs
3

How many KK?
KcKh KcKs KhKs
3

How many Axs?
Ad w/ 2-Qd
Ah w/ 2-Qh
As w/ 2-Qs
11 x 3 = 33

How many Kxs?
33

How many Axo?
Ad w/ 2-Q c, h, s = 3 x 11 = 22 x 3 for Ad, Ah, As = 99
99

How many Kxo?
99

CORRECTION
 

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Assume Ac Kd

How many AKo can your opponent hold?
AdKc AdKh AdKs AhKc AhKs AsKc AsKh
7

How many AA?
AdAh AdAs AhAs
3

How many KK?
KcKh KcKs KhKs
3

How many Axs?
Ad w/ 2-Qd
Ah w/ 2-Qh
As w/ 2-Qs
11 x 3 = 33

How many Kxs?
33

How many Axo?
Ad w/ 2-Q c, h, s = 3 x 11 = 22 x 3 for Ad, Ah, As = 99
99

How many Kxo?
99

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Thank you - you helped me spot the bug. Here's the corrected results. I didn't check carefully but at first glance none of the rankings changed (although some of the percentages changed slightly).

http://rwa.homelinux.net/poker/hand-rankings.html

I'm also now exactly duplicating Jazbo's results for all hands in the case of random hands, so that's a good sign.

eastbay

Re: CORRECTION
 

the link no longer works [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

anyone make a copy of the website?

Re: Results are in
 

FWIW, Allenciox did essentially the same thing several months ago (using karlson's data, I think), and these are his results:

web page

Craig