Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

I would raise and take a free card. I'm calling a river Q/T and raising a J (duh!).

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

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you have 10 outs. raise and bet the turn. when he bets into you like this, he is weak.

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I have way less than ten outs

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

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you have 10 outs. raise and bet the turn. when he bets into you like this, he is weak.

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just as a note, i often lead the flop with my monsters just as much as i checkraise raise them, if not more.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

Call. Don't spew bets into this small pot. He is not going to fold here.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

He's not going toi fold. I see people do this with hands like 77 for some reason that I dont understand. I take one off and fold to turn.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

10 outs = 3 Q's
3 T's
4 gut shot
plus a backdoor flush draw.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

In my Pokerroom experience, people bet/3-bet the flop against a steal a hell of a lot, especially on a board like this, and often with nothing/close to nothing. I think the villian is thinking (rightly) that you're weak since you were on a steal. That being said it is hard to put him on a hand. probably call flop and bet if checked to on the turn. If bet into UI on the turn, reevaluate, but probably drop it.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

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10 outs = 3 Q's
3 T's
4 gut shot
plus a backdoor flush draw.

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Your overcards are much devalued because roughly 1/3 the time your opponent actually does have a pair, he has a King. Furthermore, You could be reverse dominated on the Q or T. I'd say you have roughly 7 outs, including the BDFD. Peel one and hope he checks the turn if you miss.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

I just folded. I think it's close between that and peeling and folding turn UI. I think a raise is bad unless you are fairly confident you can see the river for free. The pot is really small and showing down this hand is pretty expensive relative to the size of the pot.

Re: Donked after Steal Attempt...lost
 

Anyone like raising here and betting any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q, T, J (obviously) on the turn?. I think he can lead here with a wide range of hands, alot of which you have several outs against. JT is one, something like A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is another.