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x2ski 12-23-2005 03:40 AM

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We think he's a weak/tight douchebag.

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Good to know.

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I'm not joking.

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Neither am I.

I'm genuinely glad to hear you say that.

davet 12-23-2005 03:43 AM

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Wow, you scored a 78? I got a 71!

Anybody score lower?

mikeyvegas 12-23-2005 03:43 AM

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6) You're in the small blind, holding Ah Ks. Seat # 2 has raised, everybody has folded. What do you do?

fold (7 points)

call (5 points)

raise (4 points)

Best Answer: fold

The raiser figures to have a high pair or AK as well (remember, he's a professional player raising under the gun). Why get involved when your hand is an underdog to begin with? You don't know where you're at in the hand: if you flop a king, you might lose a lot of money; if you flop an ace when the raiser has in fact a wired pair, you might not get any action; if you flop nothing but he doesn't have anything either he might outplay you and make you lay down the best hand.
7) Same situation. This time you hold Ah Kh. What do you do?

fold (7 points)

call (6 points)

raise (4 points)

Best Answer: fold

The fact that your hand is suited isn't really important here. If your call induces a call by the big blind, then your hand might be playable. However, folding is still the best option: why invest a lot of money when there's nothing in the pot, out of position when you know your opponent has a real hand?


O rly?

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milesdyson 12-23-2005 03:50 AM

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read bolded sections.

You're in the big blind with Ah 3h. There have been no raises, five people see the flop Td 8h 5h. You have checked and called the flop (seat # 4 has been the bettor) and all four remaining players have checked the turn (Ks). A third heart comes on the river (9h) and the small blind comes out betting. What do you do?

fold (2 points)

call (8 points)

raise (6 points)

Best Answer: call

This is a good time to go for the overcall. The players behind you must have made something (small flush, straight) with the nine, hands that might be good enough for one, but not for two bets. The small blind might be bluffing, might fold against your raise or, if you get reraised, your hand might not even be good.

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12-23-2005 04:03 AM

Re: I Don\'t Know Enough to be a Winning Player (QUIZ)
 
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Oh my god hurl...

I remember taking that a while back, and getting frustrated by it because I couldn't score well.

Now I just realize he's wrong about a whole lot.

Thinks he advocates:

1. Folding AKs out of the SB to a pro. UTG open-raiser.

2. Folding JJ pre-flop to an EP raise and a cold-call.

3. Not-raising a rivered nut flush with a bet in front of you and 3 players left to act behind you.

4. Not three-betting AdKd on a JdTdx flop (he REALLY doesn't understand the math of that situation... not three-betting there is a big error in my opinion).


The quiz is crap. Don't pay any attention to it.

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Deranged, I agree with all your points except #3. With the nut flush on the river and 3 people to act after us, I actually think the hero will make more money in the long run by just calling and going for overcalls. The reason I say this is becuz the river was such a great card, being the 9h on a T8xx board. Which means there will be more calling hands than usual, but they may not be hands than can coldcall two BB's on the river. Another thing I like about just calling on the river is that there will be times that it will get raised behind by either a straight or a lower flush and then we can 3 bet it.

If however I am in the type of game with really bad players that will still cold call 2bets with the same hands they wouldve called for 1 bet, then I would raise the river.

Overall though, I think this is a terrible quiz, and I feel very secure inside knowing that someone like Rolf can still beat this game even with all this flawed knowledge.

theTourne 12-23-2005 04:06 AM

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Wow, you scored a 78? I got a 71!


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Sorry, Dave:

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You haven't grasped the essence of playing hold'em yet. Practice some more on the computer (software / free tournaments), buy some books and play low-limit hold'em only, because you're not ready to step up yet.

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12-23-2005 04:09 AM

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I agree that this guy is weak as hell. The quiz also gives you 2 points for the obvious wrong answer.

You have 77 and flop middle set. 2pts for the check/fold.

And folding AKs in the SB just because a pro raised UTG? He's gonna go like Broomcorn's uncle.

I scored an 81. I just went back and clicked fold on every answer for fun and scored a 77.

davet 12-23-2005 04:09 AM

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Wow, you scored a 78? I got a 71!


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Sorry, Dave:

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You haven't grasped the essence of playing hold'em yet. Practice some more on the computer (software / free tournaments), buy some books and play low-limit hold'em only, because you're not ready to step up yet.

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LOL

shant 12-23-2005 04:18 AM

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Edit: shant. Adding no content to threads since 2004.

roueful 12-23-2005 04:19 AM

Re: I Don\'t Know Enough to be a Winning Player (QUIZ)
 
Remember, you can always get two points for folding! So play it safe, kids!


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