Re: QQ, strange action
 

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Since I'm pretty much positive that raising the turn would have, in retrospect, been the correct play, I'll go ahead and post results in white.

UTG+1 had AK, no diamond. WTF indeed.

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Come to think of it. I saw two players tonight that relentlesly donked raisers w/AK UI post-flop. Is this something Hellmuth advocates in one of his terrible books or something? Looks like a new trend. lol

Re: QQ, strange action
 

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Since I'm pretty much positive that raising the turn would have, in retrospect, been the correct play, I'll go ahead and post results in white.

UTG+1 had AK, no diamond. WTF indeed.

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Come to think of it. I saw two players tonight that relentlesly donked raisers w/AK UI post-flop. Is this something Hellmuth advocates in one of his terrible books or something? Looks like a new trend. lol

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I've seen this too! It must be a new trend [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: QQ, strange action
 

people who play AK like this retard watch too much WSOP. enjoy having them at your table. they overvalue everything.

Re: QQ, strange action
 

Grunch:

I'm raising the turn here. WNR* (with no reads - which I think we need to make a new acronym), its hard to define a range of holdings here, but you are ahead of anything except a set or AA-KK. However, there is a flush & str8 draw which could be in either of their potential holdings range.

With the 4 on the riv, I probably call the maniac's bet, but if I felt confident that I wasn't going to see A5 or 65?, then I raise here and call a 3 bet.

Re: QQ, strange action
 

:grunch:

Really wierd hand. I think I would have raised on the turn, just to see what's up. I feel like SB has TPHK or turned an OESD.

I would call UTG+1's river donk just b/c I don't believe he hit his wheel. He might have spiked two pair, but I'm not folding with this large of a pot.

EDIT: I would write on note on the player and then isolate and punish relentlessly to the point of being a maniac.

Re: QQ, strange action
 

grunch

why aren't you popping this turn with your reads? I think the donk bet by SB could be to prevent a free card to UI overs or a fd. The only reasonable hand that is beating you is 99 (other than KK and AA) and I am not giving SB credit for that just yet. Though some sort of a real read would help.