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Re: $109s - AK Hand

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My only note says "Will bluff".

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t925)
MP1 (t1135)
MP2 (t1915)
CO (t770)
Button (t925)
SB (t1150)
Hero (t2315)
UTG (t865)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t100, 3 folds, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t225) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t100, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t425) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t90, Hero calls t90.

River: (t605) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t175, Hero calls t175.

Final Pot: t955

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I don't think I like it. Sure, I put him on a bluff too, however, I don't see many bluffs you beat. Is he really going to min raise preflop with KJ? AJ maybe. What other hands are you beating here? I guess I have seen this from donks with suited connectors, but, I'd rather save the chips, raise the turn, find out where you are, and be done with it. I really see this as being a low PP, and you just got value bet like a fool [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: $109s - AK Hand

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My only note says "Will bluff".

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t925)
MP1 (t1135)
MP2 (t1915)
CO (t770)
Button (t925)
SB (t1150)
Hero (t2315)
UTG (t865)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t100, 3 folds, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t225) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t100, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t425) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t90, Hero calls t90.

River: (t605) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t175, Hero calls t175.

Final Pot: t955

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I don't think I like it. Sure, I put him on a bluff too, however, I don't see many bluffs you beat. Is he really going to min raise preflop with KJ? AJ maybe. What other hands are you beating here? I guess I have seen this from donks with suited connectors, but, I'd rather save the chips, raise the turn, find out where you are, and be done with it. I really see this as being a low PP, and you just got value bet like a fool [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Unless he has some magical read that I'll call with Ace high, the only low pockets that bet that river are 4s and 5s. Come one man stop muddying up my beautiful threads with this stuff!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: $109s - AK Hand

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My only note says "Will bluff".

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t925)
MP1 (t1135)
MP2 (t1915)
CO (t770)
Button (t925)
SB (t1150)
Hero (t2315)
UTG (t865)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 raises to t100, 3 folds, Hero calls t50.

Flop: (t225) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t100, Hero calls t100.

Turn: (t425) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t90, Hero calls t90.

River: (t605) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t175, Hero calls t175.

Final Pot: t955

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I don't think I like it. Sure, I put him on a bluff too, however, I don't see many bluffs you beat. Is he really going to min raise preflop with KJ? AJ maybe. What other hands are you beating here? I guess I have seen this from donks with suited connectors, but, I'd rather save the chips, raise the turn, find out where you are, and be done with it. I really see this as being a low PP, and you just got value bet like a fool [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Unless he has some magical read that I'll call with Ace high, the only low pockets that bet that river are 4s and 5s. Come one man stop muddying up my beautiful threads with this stuff!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Sure, if he's good, but, typical players are thinking "ok, he's called all my small bets, I can get him to fold with a bigger river bet! FIRE AWAAAAAAAAAY!!!" Then all of a sudden you looke like a donk when you can't beat his A4 or 33 or what have you.

Re: $109s - AK Hand

Really appreciate all the hands you've posted Unarmed. Most interesting.

Re: $109s - AK Hand

well, i know you dont wanna get blown off the hand on the turn, so betting like 300-400 MAY not be the best play as you could get blown off by a raise to 1k-1200. however.. i dont mind making it like 350-450 after that weak ass bet he threw out there on the turn though.. just cuz it looks so.. weak.. and if he calls you got 20358092389523058298592809582 outs. holla

Re: $109s - AK Hand

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well, i know you dont wanna get blown off the hand on the turn, so betting like 300-400 MAY not be the best play as you could get blown off by a raise to 1k-1200. however.. i dont mind making it like 350-450 after that weak ass bet he threw out there on the turn though.. just cuz it looks so.. weak.. and if he calls you got 20358092389523058298592809582 outs. holla

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Precisely what I was saying, thank you rap.

Re: $109s - AK Hand

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well, i know you dont wanna get blown off the hand on the turn, so betting like 300-400 MAY not be the best play as you could get blown off by a raise to 1k-1200. however.. i dont mind making it like 350-450 after that weak ass bet he threw out there on the turn though.. just cuz it looks so.. weak.. and if he calls you got 20358092389523058298592809582 outs. holla

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Precisely what I was saying, thank you rap.

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haha sorry i didnt read yer post, just responded to the main thread. holla

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well, i know you dont wanna get blown off the hand on the turn, so betting like 300-400 MAY not be the best play as you could get blown off by a raise to 1k-1200. however.. i dont mind making it like 350-450 after that weak ass bet he threw out there on the turn though.. just cuz it looks so.. weak.. and if he calls you got 20358092389523058298592809582 outs. holla

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Precisely what I was saying, thank you rap.

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haha sorry i didnt read yer post, just responded to the main thread. holla

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no no, you put it in better words than I did [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: $109s - AK Hand

Results?
I like your line. My only concern is that there are not a lot of raising hands we beat on this flop/board. If villain is tight preflop then AJ is about the only hand we beat. If he is loose of course he could have anything (KJ, 87s etc).

Re: $109s - AK Hand

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Results?

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Bah. Part of the reason unarmed's posts are great is that he doesn't post results. You're left wondering if he's a payoff specialist or the next Phil Ivey.