Re: a set of fives
 

looks fine to me. i dont think i'd fold that vs. anyone

i might have slow played a rainbow flop though.

Re: ugly 44 verses Lag
 

you 3-bet preflop and led the flop. when he responds by raising the turn on that sort of suited / connected board.... i hike up my skirt and run for the hills. seriously, if he didn't complete a draw or doesn't have a pair now... you still aren't in great shape: if he has overs, he has 6 outs. if he holds a single club he has another 9 outs. if the board pairs again, you pair is counterfitted = 6 more outs. he could have a gutshot 2 ways... etc.

Re: Screw sets, post your 44,55,66 hands
 

Maybe we should all combine our stats to get a decent sample size. I am thinking as a whole we probably place to much value on small pairs and should be considering folds with these in hands like this Baron hand.

When I get a second I will post filter 125K hands or so and see. My prediction is that I am a small loser with these hands even playing them more selectively perhaps than others.

Re: ugly 44 verses Lag
 

bet/fold the turn.

Re: Screw sets, post your 44,55,66 hands
 

i am a moderate winner with 22 and a larger loser with 33-44. i am a down 100 with 55. 66 and above i am a moderate to large winner.

i think the difference is that with 22 i basically stopped playing it unless the pot was multiway and then i only played for set value. i think i often overplay the others. so, i think 44 should be downgraded to the same range and style as 22 and 33.

i think 55 should be downgraded too but i think it has value in steal situations. there is no reason that all these hands are not winners in the long run.

Re: Screw sets, post your 44,55,66 hands
 

found another really ugly one. villian was 64/12/1.14 over an insignificant amount of hands. i play bad

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Re: Screw sets, post your 44,55,66 hands
 

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found another really ugly one. villian was 64/12/1.14 over an insignificant amount of hands. i play bad

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

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If he's retarded enough to checkraise that river I just bet/fold. I think you're probably losing a small amount of value from a 9 or 8.

Re: Screw sets, post your 44,55,66 hands
 

Damn man, bet the river.

Re: Screw sets, post your 44,55,66 hands
 

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i am a moderate winner with 22 and a larger loser with 33-44. i am a down 100 with 55. 66 and above i am a moderate to large winner.

i think the difference is that with 22 i basically stopped playing it unless the pot was multiway and then i only played for set value. i think i often overplay the others. so, i think 44 should be downgraded to the same range and style as 22 and 33.

i think 55 should be downgraded too but i think it has value in steal situations. there is no reason that all these hands are not winners in the long run.

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I have noticed this as well. I've begun folding 22 and 33 a lot more. I think that should be changed to include 44 and possibly 55.

Filtered for 170k hands of 2/4-10/20 shorthanded I am at a small loser with 22, 33, &amp; 55. When not a blind I am only a small loser with 22, (0.04).

Re: 66 - count my flush outs?
 

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Turn: (4.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
Hero bets</font>, CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

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why call the turn raise if you are going to fold this river?