Re: Hypothetical protect hand question: raise, cold call or fold?
 

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and with 4 outs to the nuts you can't fold here

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4 outs to the nuts? As far as I can discern, there are redraws to quads, a full house, the nut flush, and a higher straight.

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The raise is rather a way of buying outs and getting a freecard.

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What indications are there that either of the two opponents is going to fold versus reraising, or that raising into two raisers will get you a free card on the turn?

In addition, if no overcards hit the turn wouldn't it be likely that a flop raiser would bet the turn?

Re: Hypothetical protect hand question: raise, cold call or fold?
 

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and with 4 outs to the nuts you can't fold here

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4 outs to the nuts? As far as I can discern, there are redraws to quads, a full house, the nut flush, and a higher straight.


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The nuts is the best possible hand at the moment, I think...

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What indications are there that either of the two opponents is going to fold versus reraising, or that raising into two raisers will get you a free card on the turn?

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It's not impossible the flop bettor will fold to a 3-bet, but mailny we're 3-betting to buy outs from the blind, folding hands such as K9 and KJ.

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In addition, if no overcards hit the turn wouldn't it be likely that a flop raiser would bet the turn?

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And why wouldn't a flop 3-bet result in a freecard a pretty big portion of the time? Why wouldn't they put you on AA-99 when you 3-bet? How can they expect you're being on overs when you 3-bet the flop? They're pretty likely to hold hands such as JTs and AT and in that case they'll often give freecards when we 3-bet.