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Zag 06-24-2004 02:54 PM

Re: Queens are a bust!
 
You played it great until you rereraised the flop. As you said, only a better hand will call you, so only a better hand did. You risked a huge amount of money for little gain. See my longish diatribe that I just wrote about playing big stacks. You can consider an overpair to be just about the same as TPTK. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...fpart=1#777859

Concerning who among the posters here are worth listening to, I think that is a great question. Personally, I am steadily beating the Party Poker games, but you might want to discount that because of your opinion of the opponents. However, with the stack sizes you show, your play would have been just as much a mistake there, as well. I think it is the structure of the Party games that affects the play as much as the quality of the opponents.

A better approach would be to read the posts in which people don't just say what to do, but say why. Then do the math (or analysis) yourself and see if you agree. That's why I try in my posts not just to tell what I think, but also to include all the reasoning behind it.

Don't assume that I do all of this altruistically (though sometimes I do). In a lot of the longer posts, I have worked out the reasoning in order to help clarify it in my own mind. In fact, I just made a post in which I ended up changing my mind after writing out all the math. I don't really assume that anyone else works all the way through my longer-winded posts, but I don't really care, either. I have learned more by writing than I have by reading.

RichSaneSwindler 06-24-2004 05:11 PM

Re: Queens are a bust!
 
Zag,

I just read your noted post with great interest. It makes perfect sense to me and I think the most useful (for me) aspect of what you wrote was that if I have a big stack, people will play differently against me. In particular, we can generalize what you wrote to mean:

- when you have a big stack (and I would add, especially when people know you are not afraid to push) people show you more respect. They are less likely to make a big bet on a bluff as they know they are putting their whole stack at risk. This is especially true for the middle level stacks.

- people will play you all the time for the implied odds, so you have to be doubly suspicious of calls that "aren't getting correct pot odds". If the boards looks scarey, you have to give it more respect.

Thanks! Fantastic post.

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