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12-22-2005 04:05 AM

Re: Something Eternal
 
I'll take a look.
But, the absolutely massive complexity of this singularity you speak of... I mean, this thing that created the universe, this uncaused brilliantly coriographed entity. This ball of energy that caused the universe to Bang into existence, shouts consiousness to me. That's one very lucky, skilled piece of matter.

12-22-2005 04:07 AM

Re: Something Eternal
 
My brain must not be big enough to understand your post.

12-22-2005 04:12 AM

Re: Something Eternal
 
If you believe that you have some kind of control over time, your deluded.
I know after I wake that another day has passed and some day I am going to die.
Time is measurable and testable, the earth is rotating around our sun once a year, your time on earth is fleeting away from you at a rapid pace. I suggest you adopt a rational view of time so you can make best use of it. Say 24 hours, another day has passed. I know It's very unlikely i'm going to live passed 100, get a move on.

J. Stew 12-22-2005 09:12 AM

Re: Something Eternal
 
No control over time here bro. That doesn't make time any less of a concept though. Quite useful but still a concept, do you not see that?

12-23-2005 08:34 AM

Re: Something Eternal
 
Nah, I don't see why time can't be seen as a sure thing, measurable and testable, I know that time is there ticking along, I know what has happened in the past and can make assumptions about the future.

12-23-2005 08:39 AM

Re: Something Eternal
 
[ QUOTE ]
...I know that time is there ticking along...

[/ QUOTE ]

No, time doesn't tick along. Time is only a measure of change. If there is absolutely no change in the universe, there is no time interval.

Think about it. Time is only relative to a change (clock, uranium decay, whatever). If there is no change anywhere (and not in your clock), there is no change and no time interval.

Time is relative, it is a derived measure, not an absolute one.

12-23-2005 12:29 PM

Re: Something Eternal
 
0 + 0 = 0

Ok, if there were a time when change never existed then there would be no change here and now, eh?

Because something exists now, anything, a 1. I can reason that there has been something that is eternal.

1. Something exists now
2. There was never absolute nothing.
3. Something is eternal


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