Re: Bellagio 30/60 62s hand
 

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i hate your river 3bet. i'd rather check-raise and call a 3bet. or check-raise and fold to a 3bet if you are confient of your read.

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actually i dont know anymore. the more ithink about it the more i like bet/3betting the river.

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i just wanted to emphasize again that i think checkraising this river flat out sucks. glad to see you're rethinking it. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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are you sure he doesn'tdo this with any K? hard to give you running hearts here, isn't it? I dunno. I feel like I really want to show this down.

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i just wanted to emphasize again that i think checkraising this river flat out sucks. glad to see you're rethinking it. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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yeah, bet/3bet has gotta be the way to go. he'll raise a worse hand (Kx) often enough (55%+) to allow you to 3bet here. but you definitely have to fold when he 4bets.

just out of curiousity, what exactly do you not like about c/ring?


edit: fwiw, i didnt see your post about how much you hate c/ring until after i made my second post, or i would have just asked you there.

Re: Bellagio 30/60 62s hand
 

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are you sure he doesn'tdo this with any K? hard to give you running hearts here, isn't it? I dunno. I feel like I really want to show this down.

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This is the exact hand I put people on with this river play. I do and sometimes don't raise the river here with hand like AK.

Re: Bellagio 30/60 62s hand
 

Well, you do, but does an "asian local" do this? I have no idea what the hell that means towards a style of play. Is he competent, crazy, not stupid? I don't understand how I can comment on such a river play with a read of "asain local" to run on.

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I agree with Andy here,,kinda poker 101 in why you don't play these cards

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I don't like a 3-bet because once you are beat you are getting 4-bet 99% of the time, and maybe not even called some of the other times.

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It looks like you just made a case that 3-bet fold to 4-bet is a good play.

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I like your play all the way to the river fold. You're getting almost 16 to 1. You're over 93% sure he's not overplaying AK, KQ, or even AA? There's no reason to make fancy folds like this at 30/60, and even if you do sometimes you certainly can't make a habit out of them.

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I agree with Andy here,,kinda poker 101 in why you don't play these cards

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Does poker 101 include anything on preflop pot odds?