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mterry 12-14-2005 02:12 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
Damn you must be nuts to cap when there's only been one raise.

mterry 12-14-2005 02:23 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
One more thing:
Pokerstove is still chugging away, but when you add in a third person limping with a wide range (40% minus premiums), equity looks like it drops to about 34% preflop. I suppose with position and dead blind money this equates to a slight edge. This plus the near unanymous vote to 3-bet makes me reconsider folding here.

bernie 12-14-2005 02:36 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
Given the opponent description, this is a real easy BEEEP! :We interrupt this response to say the answer is somewhere in the beginner/small stakes forum. Now back to your regularly scheduled response.: and I'm sure the voting will reflect that.

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flair1239 12-14-2005 02:54 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
We are essentially just debating a read here right? Jason thinks he is a tight/passive PF player with relatively static raising standards.

You belive he is capable of making adjustments based on position and table texture.

I guess the real thing to be debating is where the information for your read came from...ie what have you observed?

Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read.

Entity 12-14-2005 03:39 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
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Because the statisical information seems to favor Jason's read.

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Where did you get the impression that a 13/8 is unduly tight with his PFR standards after a limper?

12-14-2005 04:25 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
The more poker you play the more you should realise that AQo is virtually never fit to cold-call with.

Only on extremely rare occasions and under perfect conditions would I even consider an isolation 3-bet with it and even then it's marginal at best. If ANY limper and ANY raiser are already in front, forget it, even if one's a fish and the other a donkey. The hand is weak, vulnerable and you're paying too much to even try. You do have a positional advantage, however. You get to see what's going on in front of you and that is precisely what enables you to MUCK IT without getting involved ass-backwards to begin with!

This opinion, of course, will get me branded as a weak-tight nit. But I don't care.

Do yourself a favor. Muck first and ask questions later.

SackUp 12-14-2005 04:26 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
Given our position and the action thus far, this hand is far to big not to 3bet.

gaming_mouse 12-14-2005 04:29 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
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My guess is there's at least a 3% margin of error in a sample as small as 2300 hands. Just a guess, based on how I've seen myself portrayed over 1k, 2k, and 5k hand samples.

Rob

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A 95% confidence interval is plus or minus 1.3%, assuming his true PFR is .12

Chris Daddy Cool 12-14-2005 04:29 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
no love for the coldcall? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

3-bizzle!

bernie 12-14-2005 04:39 AM

Re: I\'m turning jason into a LAG. The AQo test?
 
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Only on extremely rare occasions and under perfect conditions would I even consider an isolation 3-bet with it and even then it's marginal at best. If ANY limper and ANY raiser are already in front, forget it, even if one's a fish and the other a donkey

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It doesn't take perfect conditions at all. Auto-folding this, especially if it's a loose raiser in front of a loose limper is losing money. Especially if you can fold everyone else out behind you with a 3 bet with position.

I'd suggest practicing postflop play with this hand if you're really that worried about it against weak players.

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The hand is weak, vulnerable and you're paying too much to even try.

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In many cases, you may also have the best hand.

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