Re: Discuss options on turn please
 

Fold preflop, and its not close.

Bet the turn, and its not close. If he doesnt have an ace, he has to fold. If he has an ace, you'll probably get raised, but who cares, you have outs.

Re: Discuss options on turn please
 

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suited, semi-connected i would call. i would probably bet that turn as a 4 flush with a pair is a fairly robust holding, even with only one to come. a check/call and c/r if improved line may work well also. it would depend on the opponents turn/river aggression as to which line i may take.

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What about just c/ring right now?

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I REALLY hate the idea of letting a lot of the hands he has check through the turn. Like REALLY REALLY REALLY.

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Your options are close if we assume that there is no chance of this checking through.

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Since that assumption is horrible the options aren't that close.

Re: Discuss options on turn please
 

Evan, are you betting the turn and not putting any more money in the pot? It seems like QJ/KQ type hands will go away on this turn and if he calls (or raises) we're done for. I also think the idea of him having AND folding TT+ is pretty rare.

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It sucks that you're out of position in this hand.

I think it's too likely that CO has spiked a pair on the turn to bet into him. I'm checking and calling with my flush draw. If he checks behind on the turn then that sucks, and I'm betting no matter what comes on the river.

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Yea, I think if we get called on the turn check-folding the river should be considered very seriously. I don't think he is folding TT+, but he could fold 55-88.

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PF - we can all just leave it alone. I play with a 4 color deck, and when my cards match in the bb, I get a chubby.

ok...I bet the turn, he called.

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Your plan?

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Evan, are you betting the turn and not putting any more money in the pot? It seems like QJ/KQ type hands will go away on this turn and if he calls (or raises) we're done for. I also think the idea of Communism every being implemented on a large scale in its true form is pretty rare.

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FiP

Re: Discuss options on turn please
 

Preflop is a clear fold. With just 2 players in, I don't think it's close.

I think a bet on the turn is your best choice. Call a raise and check/fold river ui. If he's calling on the turn, check/fold river. He wont go to the river with something you beat. You want pp to fold (although that wont happen often) and you don't want to give a free card to overcards.

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Evan, are you betting the turn and not putting any more money in the pot? It seems like QJ/KQ type hands will go away on this turn and if he calls (or raises) we're done for. I also think the idea of Communism every being implemented on a large scale in its true form is pretty rare.

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FiP

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That's why I wanted to talk about a c/r here. However, I had no idea if he was aggressive enough to bet something like TT+ here..and then lay it down. So I just bet.