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DonButtons 06-07-2005 05:15 PM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
lol, 500 is nothing though...

My first 500 at the 109s was like 15%, and the 215s it was 27%, next 500 were different...

the point of this post which shocks me, is he only dropped 10 buyins or whatever in 2000 sngs just recently and is depressed about it, lol...cmon

raptor517 06-07-2005 07:31 PM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
yes, however to settle back to that over the next 500 or so you will have to break even. when that happens, dont get discouraged. its just variance, and it WILL happen. holla

Apathy 06-07-2005 08:01 PM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
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lol, 500 is nothing though...

My first 500 at the 109s was like 15%, and the 215s it was 27%, next 500 were different...

the point of this post which shocks me, is he only dropped 10 buyins or whatever in 2000 sngs just recently and is depressed about it, lol...cmon

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My favourite line was "I'm still well bankrolled"

Ugh...YEAH you have made 44,000 bucks in 109s I sure as hell hope your well bankrolled!!

MentalCombat 06-07-2005 08:07 PM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
Wow, heater over 2000 eh? I thought that was a big enough sample to be pretty confident in your ROI. Shows what I know [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Pokerscott 06-07-2005 08:46 PM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
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Well it finally happened today, over my last 100 SnG's i've lost about 13 buyins at 109's, sliced in every conceivable manner... i've been 8 tabling for a few weeks now so it was due to happen eventually, but i had been running really good (i'm still at 19% ROI over 2000) even during bad runs before i'd posted small profits but today was a slicing like i've never had in SnG's

What do you guys do when you get your brains beatten out, do you take a break or fire on through, dropping down isn't an option... my bankroll is still just fine for this level. But mentally i'm a little frazzled by constant strings of 8-12 OOTM

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Some fun with stats...

-Assume for a moment you are a 20% ROI player at the 100s...

If you have a bunch of 20% ROI players and asked them their worst 100 over the last 2000 SnGs, the median answer would be 22 buy-ins. Having your 'worst run' be only 13 buy-ins is very very unlikely. Not impossible, but still about a 9-1 dog.

My money is on this being a BS post, but hey I guess it could happen that you are both a 20% ROI player (rare) AND a damn lucky 20% ROI player in that your swings are crazy low (rarer)...

Pokerscott (who loves his simulator program lol)

--For those that care this assumes 7% net rake and even 1st/2nd/3rd win distribution to produce 20% ROI... Yada yada yada.

Voltron87 06-07-2005 08:48 PM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
is this the same guy who asked whether he should quit his 10$ an hour job after making 20Gs playing SNGs?

curtains 06-08-2005 01:33 AM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
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lol, 500 is nothing though...

My first 500 at the 109s was like 15%, and the 215s it was 27%, next 500 were different...

the point of this post which shocks me, is he only dropped 10 buyins or whatever in 2000 sngs just recently and is depressed about it, lol...cmon

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Don't worry, I know that 500 sit and gos is not many. I feel confident around the 3000 mark. Although honestly I feel confident simply because I consistantly see other players make huge mistakes, not because of my ROI. You don't need a large sample size for that.

DMACM 06-08-2005 02:51 AM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
Is it really true that sit and goes have less swings than no limit ring games. I have been playing 50NL for a really long time and I cant imagine a 10 buy in drop. Then again maybe cause the limit is so low and the players are so bad theres less swings.

applejuicekid 06-08-2005 03:31 AM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
I don't think a buy in for a NL ring game is equal to SNG buy in. However, I have been wondering the same thing.

augie00 06-08-2005 11:02 AM

Re: First -ROI run over 100 SnG\'s... Oof
 
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all of you people getting mad about 15 buyin drops, get used to it. thats part of multitabling. if you never have a 50 buyin drop, you will never be able to play poker professionally.

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How many tables do you play at once? I play as many as I can on stars (usually gets to about 6-7 at a time during peak hours) and I 50 buyins seems a little extreme. I have lost 20 buyins twice, but 50? wow. How often does this happen to you? My sample size is still very small, about 500 sngs.


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