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wait... do you play limit?

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Yes. I do come from that background. Not sure if you are taking a jab at me but that is the answer to your question.

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I might have the best hand and can stop him from hitting an overcard to my 6's. There are a lot of broadway gutshots he could have. He is not a lunatic and might fold hands like 99.


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this hand has nothing to do with pot control... pot control is when you have a good hand and dont want to get blown off and would like to see a showdown... here your hand is almost worthless (its actually slightly better than 23 because of the rare times he will have QJs and call then checkcheclcheckcheck)
might fold 99, lol.... no he might fold AK.
dont worry too much about protecting fragile hands that may be best... it opens yourself up too much.

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this hand has nothing to do with pot control... pot control is when you have a good hand and dont want to get blown off and would like to see a showdown... here your hand is almost worthless (its actually slightly better than 23 because of the rare times he will have QJs and call then checkcheclcheckcheck)
might fold 99, lol.... no he might fold AK.
dont worry too much about protecting fragile hands that may be best... it opens yourself up too much.

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Thanks for the response. So are you saying I am overthinking my hand being the best and this is an easy fold?

I feel like if I fold by default in every single one of these marginal situations i am just going to get run over by certain players.

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being overrun is if you have AK in this hand and people are constantly making this raise vs you.

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hellacious when that starts

causes major tilt

great reason to make this play occassionally with "air"

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Here is a hand I played and my thoughts. Let me know if I am a moron:

5/10 NL 8-handed.
Aggressive opponent ($1300) opens in MP to $40. I ($950) call on the button with 66. Blinds fold.

Flop ($95): K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Opponent bets $80, I make it $240....

My thoughts. Opponent is the type to fire the second barrel here a lot if I just call. I might have the best hand and can stop him from hitting an overcard to my 6's. There are a lot of broadway gutshots he could have. He is not a lunatic and might fold hands like 99.

Stupid? Building a big pot with a marginal hand is horrible? Obvious I am weak because I probably might actually play a stronger hand more slowly?

Thanks,
tpir

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I dont like it. Its as if you decided, "i will force this hand." Anyway, if you're going to do this, dont do it against an aggressive players, pick some weak tightie who'll put you on a set and toss slick.

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Wait, people actually fold AK here? OK, I most definitely have a problem with being too loose post-flop thanks to my limit upbringing.