Re: 86s in BB
 

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I call preflop. Anybody other than Victor think that's a leak? I think it's fine but I'd be willing to reconsider.

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I think it's fine once button calls. 86s is about the wrost I'll call thou.

Re: 86s in BB
 

I like the preflop call.

Postflop, I attempt a check-raise, but since it went bet/call I fold it. We're not going to like many turn/river cards, and we're probably only winning by showing it down.

Re: 86s in BB
 

What are your minimum requirements for calling here then at 5:1? I might even go slightly lower than this, 67s, 56s, 75s at a push.

Re: 86s in BB
 

While you describe the UTG as laggy, his PFR is only 15%. For him to be raising utg, I'm guessing that means he still has some sort of standard for raising. Since your out of position, I think its best to just let the UTG and Button duke it out one-on-one-stylez

Re: 86s in BB
 

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What are your minimum requirements for calling here then at 5:1? I might even go slightly lower than this, 67s, 56s, 75s at a push.

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to an utg raiser with 15pfr i am folding most of these. mebbe not 67s and higher. i would call if the raise was from the button or co.

anyone advocating proceeding after the flop is throwing money away. calling flop and donking the turn is just throwing your money away.