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tigerite 12-16-2005 10:05 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
Are the starting stacks $1500 and how did he lose the $600 if so? If they are $1000 how did you gain the $500 and how did he lose the $100.

It's still most times a call, anyways. Mostly cos if you call and lose you still have 12BB, something people seem to be overlooking.

adanthar 12-16-2005 10:09 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
You guys know if he shows QQ it's an instacall, right?

kyro 12-16-2005 10:10 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
I actually try to leave as much info out of my original post so that I can add it in later and boost my post count.

Duh.

It's Party, 1000 chip counts. I don't recall how I got the extra 500 chips and I'm not sure if it's relevant. Assume I sucked out on someone because I'm a fish because that's how I characterize all my opponents when i don't notice the increase in chip stacks.

handsome 12-16-2005 10:11 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
It's pretty close IMO. because of the chip stacks.

kyro 12-16-2005 10:14 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
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You guys know if he shows QQ it's an instacall, right?

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The poster I was disagreeing with said that if you plug TT+/AK into pusher's range, it's a fold...and it's not that close. THat boggled my mind and I really didn't believe him.

adanthar 12-16-2005 10:36 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
Aside from his math being flawed, does he take into account what happens when your stack dominates the table?

Mr_J 12-16-2005 10:53 PM

n/m
 
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J-Lo 12-16-2005 10:53 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
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You guys know if he shows QQ it's an instacall, right?

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The poster I was disagreeing with said that if you plug TT+/AK into pusher's range, it's a fold...and it's not that close. THat boggled my mind and I really didn't believe him.

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I was the poster... I think you are risking too perfect a stack. Someone (irie, the canadian guy,maybe citanul) made a post about using full "pressure" (wasn't the correct word) of you stack. And this is the perfect situation where the 900 chip guy is using full pressure on your 1500 stack. You have 1350 if u fold... and 2400 if u win. My intuition told me it was a fold, but you guys saying it's a call throws me off a bit. I might have to do some ICM HW, and comeback to y'all. (i'm going out now, so i'l do it 2morow afternoon) Isn't this one of those stack preservations, insta call w/ QQ?

Are u calling, becasue if u start folding AK in this spot, people will push w/ any 2 after u raise?

RobGW 12-16-2005 11:00 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
We are calling because the pot is 1125 and its 750 to call. Hero only has to win 40% of the time. Also, hero is the big stack. If he loses this he is still in it. If he wins he can dominate the tourney assuming he plays a big stack well. And by playing well I mean not folding in spots like this. Hero sends a message that he's not to be fd with after this hand.

wuwei 12-16-2005 11:03 PM

Re: A disagreement over AK
 
I used to fold this a lot. Now I call a lot.


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