Re: Fairly Common Situation
 

Fold preflop.

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Re: Fairly Common Situation
 

if I had a pt at some of these 10-20 b&M tables like this one, the average vp of the table would be 40. QJo is definitely good enough to play.

Re: Fairly Common Situation
 

On the button maybe, not in MP.

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On the button maybe, not in MP.

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I see no value in raising here on the button when we already have it. CO, sure.

Re: Fairly Common Situation
 

I find this decision to be very player dependent. Has he raised his drawing hand before? Would he have raised or called on the flop with a made flush? How good is his game? Does he know that he is effectively isolating you and would he do that with a drawing hand?

In many live games against a loose player who can be aggressive post-flop, a C/C, C/C is a good enough line and you will win often enough with TPMK. If a spade falls, you need to decide whether you can represent the big spade and get him to fold... again, very player and read dependent.

Re: Fairly Common Situation
 

I'm not raising it OTB, I'm limping it. I'm folding it in MP.

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On the button maybe, not in MP

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I agree fold this trash preflop
What are you ahead of here? Your a dog to A/K(one spade)
you about even money with any A-x (X being a spade). Any Pair (holding a spade) etc etc.

You get to make top pair with a bad kicker..wow...

Re: Fairly Common Situation
 

PF in a limped pot, I believe this hand has low, but positive EV. Live, I definately play it for the advantages that come with playing live and becuase ITS LIVE AND PLAYING LIVE IS LIKE WATCHING THE GRASS GROW WHEN YOU PLAY TAG!!!!

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I think check call is a fairly substantial mistake.

First, if I'm going to play preflop I usually raise here to try to get the button.

Second, given the board and your read I think this is a pretty clear flop 3-bet and turn lead. You're almost certainly ahead and don't want to be giving any free cards. Plus, if he raises the turn I think you can fold pretty safely.

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this is what i was gonna say.