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12-16-2005 12:06 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
He's tight, and passive, and yet has bet the pot on the turn. I don't like taking the lead away from a player like this. I would check/raise on the river.

unlucky513 12-16-2005 12:27 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
easy river push

swolfe 12-16-2005 02:17 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
alright, maybe it is as easy as "i have a boat, i think he'll call, push", but he didn't call. what can you guys put him on that raises the turn, but folds the river?

NickPoker 12-16-2005 06:24 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. or a poorly attempted steal.

xorbie 12-16-2005 06:29 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
im confused as to what hands you guys see calling a push that wont bet if checked to.

Big_Jim 12-16-2005 06:38 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
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im confused as to what hands you guys see calling a push that wont bet if checked to.

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swolfe 12-16-2005 06:38 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
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im confused as to what hands you guys see calling a push that wont bet if checked to.

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see, xorbie knows what i'm saying

yvesaint 12-16-2005 06:40 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
i think a c/r all-in is better than a push here

let him keep the aggression, he raised the turn, play scared

i think i push if the river is an 8 though

Big_Jim 12-16-2005 06:43 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
The only hands that you lose value to with a check/raise are Ax non-boated, and I'm not so sure he'd raise that turn with that hand.

Every boat bets, every boat calls a c/r all in.

Flush draws might bet/obviously fold to a bet.

OBVIOUSLY we go broke to AQ if he has it.

OTOH.. pot is $191, and he can't fold an A here if you push. If you think it's at all likely that he'd raise the turn with a bare A, I think pushing is better. However, I don't think it is at all likely, considering the action.

NickPoker 12-16-2005 06:48 PM

Re: PP $200 - River play with boat
 
I think the reverse is even more true, the villain would have to be pretty bad to play a bluff here. I personally would check behind with a weak Ace here (any ace that isn't a fullhouse or AK), but would probably reluctantly call with the same hand.


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