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TomBrooks 11-20-2005 07:02 PM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
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I woulda folded the turn if it weren't for my weak flush draw.

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Sounds good.


With utg having a pfr% of only 4, just calling the flop raise looks prudent.

KDawgCometh 11-20-2005 07:15 PM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
I really don't see the point of Three betting PF OOP against that PFR. I'd call and see what the flop brings.


You really spewed on the flop to be honest. This guy just isn't raising enough hands, and being aggro enough post flop to merit anything but bet/call

Turn, I'd probably fold. Even if you hit your crappy flush draw, I doubt that you are good there enough to merit it, so really, you're drawing to your FH outs on the turn. I'm folding right there

11-20-2005 08:48 PM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
If you just call you are playing in the dark.

KDawgCometh 11-20-2005 09:23 PM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
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If you just call you are playing in the dark.

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not entirely. This guy raises PF so rarely that we can have a fair idea as to his hand range holding. Here is a case to play your JJ more like 88 or 99 instead of a top pair. We have to act first on all streets and are up against a guy who rarely raises. his range could very well be, AA, KK, QQ, AK. How much value is there in three betting OOP there against that range

11-20-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
If you are that confident thats what his range is, fold preflop.

rmarotti 11-21-2005 04:42 AM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
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If you are that confident thats what his range is, fold preflop.

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Thanks for helping to improve the forums.

11-21-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Hating my Jacks
 
I'm completely serious. In some local live games here there are a few extremely tight old-school-poker-type old men, and if they raise in EP you know it means AA KK or QQ. So, if I have jj and I dont have odds to hit a set, you better believe I'm folding.


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