Re: Action Completion?
 

I don't like completing OOP, seeing 3 to a flop with t400, nearly half Hero's stack already in there.

For me, this is a push/fold. I take the dead money, my trusty A4s, and my desperate stack, and send it towards the middle.

Ah... Just realized what you're getting at. It's definitely an interesting line, just not one that I take.

Re: Action Completion?
 

I push now because:

1) If BB raises you basically are screwed if you just call

2) You are against two opponents, the odds of one of them flopping a pair when you don't flop an ace is something like 40% or so (that is ballpark) which means if you call and then push any flop you are crushed 40% of the time.

3) If you aren't intending to stop-and-go then you put in 11% of your stack and then fold 2/3 of the time which sucks.

4) I don't mind calling and then c/ring allin if you flop an ace but I don't think you make as much as when you just push (that is gut, I didn't do math)

5) Most of the time the limper has crap, he probably raises most pairs so either you chop a lot of the time or you have the best hand

6) With your stack I don't mind getting in as a 60% favorite most of the time against BB with dead money in the pot

7) If I fold here I have to find a better spot in the next 3 hands before the blinds hit me again, which I probably won't especially with a calling station on my left.

Re: Action Completion?
 

only 100 more to call. not a crime against nature to complete 1/2 of one of your remaining 4.5 bb's.

complete
push any 2 hearts
push any ace
c/r a made flush
c/f a whiff

i don't know if you have more creative plans for the flop. any notion of sniffing out a mini-bluff by big-stack will be tough with BB lurking behind you. if you get a "favorable" flop - push it (3 hearts being the exception of course).

Re: Action Completion?
 

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complete
push any 2 hearts
push any ace
c/r a made flushs
c/f a whiff


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I also like this line.

Re: Action Completion?
 

I don't like pushing cos given your read GABED is gonna call you somewhere around, oh, 100% of the time, and calling an all-in from him here would be only marginally profitable even if he was pushing ATC. Technically calling in that spot with A8o would be even less profitable, but I'd much rather push with that here given his limping range. At least A8 dominates a bunch of his hands. A4 doesn't even dominate A3 and A2.

Sooo

I like completing and check/folding whiffs, pushing a draw, and pushing or checking/min-betting an Ace.

Re: Action Completion?
 

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6) With your stack I don't mind getting in as a 60% favorite most of the time against BB with dead money in the pot


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I'd imagine at best I'm going to be like a 52% favorite here vs. the big stacks range of hands....I mean, he likes calling small stacks but he won't limp with any two at all. More like top 40-50% or so? That seems fair to me.

Yugoslav

Re: Action Completion?
 

You are small stack with an ace in a large pot what is the question?

Pot is $600 you have $1050 limper likely has cheese you are the small stack.

You wont get many more favourable spots to double up.

Re: Action Completion?
 

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You are small stack with an ace in a large pot what is the question?

Pot is $600 you have $1050 limper likely has cheese you are the small stack.

You wont get many more favourable spots to double up.

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You are thinking like an MTT player. The bubble warps this situation.

Re: Action Completion?
 

Based on your read, stop n go.

Re: Action Completion?
 

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Based on your read, stop n go.

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I like that least here of the options I have so far considered (besides the fact that you don't technically 'stop' the action preflop here)

Holla!

Yugoslav
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