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Allinlife 08-26-2005 03:29 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
no way in hell i fold, nice pfr too.

you will very often seen AK/ or random pp in this spot...push and get it over with.

radioheadfan 08-26-2005 03:33 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
Easy, easy push.

If he has aces, make sure to river a king.

Inevitable 08-26-2005 03:39 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
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When this LRR happens, its always aces from my experience, if you've read skylansky's torunament poker then you will recall that he was disappointed in good players who were not able to fold kings in this situiaton in the WSOP.

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Yeah, but this is NL full ring... you try to maximize EV here, and it's different then tournament poker, isn't it?

savman 08-26-2005 03:46 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
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no way in hell i fold, nice pfr too.

you will very often seen AK/ or random pp in this spot...push and get it over with.

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i would only make this pf raise if i was trying to take down the pot pf with trash or say ak, even then i probably wouldnt make this raise, any bet on the flop is committing....in short this raise is to large with 100bb stacks imo. kk is a hand that can handle a lot of action, make a more tempered raise and play some poker past he flop. if op was oop i would like this more, but u are letting villains play correctly to easy with this enormous raise pf.

fuzzbox 08-26-2005 03:48 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
its Aces, lay it down.

AllIn3High 08-26-2005 04:00 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
I can't believe you're all saying fold here, I'm NEVER folding in this spot. You have all noticed that it's not the original raiser that's re-raising right?

I realize that it's a bad ass play if you think there's going to be a raise behind you, but honestly how often are UTG raises getting re-raised ??? I'll tell you - not very often.

It's far more likely he has some kind of medium pair and is making a steal. EZ push.

If he has aces good for him, but his hand range is a lot wider here.

EDIT: For the record, I'm not one of the usual "Never fold KK pre-flop"-people, but this is NOT the spot for these kind of laydowns.

08-26-2005 07:33 AM

Re: KK hand. I said I would never do this...
 
You'd have to be crazy to fold here. Villain has 88, so get it all in there!


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