Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

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I dont like the preflop or the planned check-raise.

Catch My Bitch, the LAG, when you have a hand. A better hand will come around for you soon. Then try to take the LAG's stack then.

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An overpair with the third nut low draw against someone potting it every time it's their turn to act isn't a hand?

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

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KK23 is a big hand. I dont mind calling preflop and trying to bust him. To anyone that folds this preflop: WHAT?!?

This is an easy flop to get away from because you know the guy that called the villan probably has the nut low draw. Also you cant put villan on a hand, even if it seems like you probably have him beat, he might show something that beats you like top two or even a small set. Just wait till you get a hand, no need to get your money in on a flop that didnt really do much for you.

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These were my thoughts.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First!
 

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I was definitely going to check-raise him if everyone folded around to me. It was the fact that someone called that swung my decision towards a fold. Should I have folded even if everyone else did?

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I think I'd call but not check-raise, even if everyone else folds.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

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KK23 is a big hand.

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The problem with the hand is that with the 23 you need an ace to flop, but then that makes KK no good for the high. So you really are looking for AKx to flop. Good luck with that.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

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KK23 is a big hand.

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The problem with the hand is that with the 23 you need an ace to flop, but then that makes KK no good for the high. So you really are looking for AKx to flop. Good luck with that.

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Just for the record, crazy guy in this hand had 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Remind me again why it is so necessary that either an ace or king flop for me to continue playing and I'll listen.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

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KK23 is a big hand.

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The problem with the hand is that with the 23 you need an ace to flop, but then that makes KK no good for the high. So you really are looking for AKx to flop. Good luck with that.

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No you dont need A/K to come on the flop. Any flop with a King is a monster flop for you. If the flop comes K/10/8, the 2/3 will come into play on any favorable turn for you. If a J, Q, or A, or 9 comes you are probably dead to anyone that called your flop bet. So you need a low card on the turn. Thats where 2/3 comes into play. If a low comes on the river you will not just get the high, you will scoop a big percentage of the time. Thats why its a solid hand.

Also if the flop comes A/7/8 and you bet and a guy just calls. You are usually way ahead and will quarter him a big percentage of the time.

You dont need a monster both ways to continue in a hand.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

Fold it PF.

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Fold it PF.

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No. Seriously, wtf.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

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Any flop with a King is a monster flop for you.

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LOL. You are funny to me.

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If the flop comes K/10/8, the 2/3 will come into play on any favorable turn for you.

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Also if the flop comes A/7/8 and you bet and a guy just calls. You are usually way ahead and will quarter him a big percentage of the time.

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I agree here.

Re: Questionable Laydown - My First! (200 PLO8b)
 

Yikes. I don't see the value in playing KK23 anywhere but shorthanded and/or heads-up.