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TheRover 12-20-2005 12:21 AM

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Seriously my comment was a bit silly but it was nowhere near as absurd as some of the claims my opponents have made.

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I agree. That my point, sort of.
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You better explain to my why my comment is more ridiculous than an 8 skinhead sample set.

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It isn't, but using Dollywood as an example just sounds ridiculous and goofy as hell and takes away from your arguement imo. Just come up with a better example and way of phrasing it.

Clarkmeister 12-20-2005 12:21 AM

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There are many other legit reasons to sport this flag.


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No, there really aren't. And I'm not getting into your semantical argument about whether or not the users of the flag are racist. I'm simply talking about whether or not use of the flag is ok. To suggest that there are "many legit reasons" to publicly use the confederate flag is pretty ridiculous.

kipin 12-20-2005 12:21 AM

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This thread is quite amusing.

I particularly like sublimes "so you know a lot about the racism issues in sweden i presume?" line and the Sponger Nazi fluff monster.

Voltron's fypeachy was also classic.

My rating: five stars

Clarkmeister 12-20-2005 12:22 AM

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What the confederate flag represents today has very little to do with what the Civil War was about.

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This is basically correct.

Evan 12-20-2005 12:24 AM

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And u driving through the south doesnt make u an expert on our way of life here

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I've spent many weeks in the south, much more than just driving through. Still, I wouldn never claim to be an expert on Southern culture. I never have and never will.

Evan 12-20-2005 12:26 AM

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Just to be clear, one more time, I DO NOT WANT THE CONFEDERATE FLAG TO BE BANNED, RESTRICTED, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!

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I do. Not in OOT, but to have any part of a flag flying over any state capital with a confederate flag design is completely unacceptible. Not only for what that flag, rightly or wrongly, symbolizes to millions of Americans, but also because THEY LOST THE WAR. If you lose the war, you do not get to continue flying your colors. But even ignoring that, it should be pretty obviously wrong for any public institution to have any part of that flag.

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Clark, just to be clear, I was only talking about this forum. I agree that it shouldn't be flown in those settings for the same reasons you state. I think you'll agree that it shouldn't be restricted on this forum.

peachy 12-20-2005 12:29 AM

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And u driving through the south doesnt make u an expert on our way of life here

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I've spent many weeks in the south, much more than just driving through. Still, I wouldn never claim to be an expert on Southern culture. I never have and never will.

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You driving through/staying a short time and seeing things here and making assumtions about our culture/way of life based on your education and what u have been told is about the worst thing u can do. Sure everyone has thier own thoughts...but u shouldnt be closed minded to the facts that others are trying to share about the issue.



That flag means alot to everyone of the south...and will never be gotten rid of in any shape or form. It stands for alot more than most of you will ever realize or ever research and places pride in the hearts of most southerns....that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.


I have a good deal of native american in me as well as german - I did not exist in those times and do not bring those issues into the present with me on making decisions on how i feel about poeple of this world - I do have family that is very true to thier heritage on both sides and I respect each in thier culture and heritage. I am southern...and I am proud of what that means and what my family has accomplished here over the last 200 years. I don't blame anyone of any race for what happened to my ancestors....and no symbol that a few use for hate will ever change that.

Clarkmeister 12-20-2005 12:30 AM

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I think you'll agree that it shouldn't be restricted on this forum.

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That's up to the site owners. I don't even recall ever seeing one. I'm obviously talking about a very specific issue tangential to this thread.

Clarkmeister 12-20-2005 12:31 AM

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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

TheRover 12-20-2005 12:33 AM

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Anyone,

isn't this stuff for the politics forum, anyway?


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