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samjjones 11-29-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Nominations for Best \"Rock\" Album of 2005
 
This annoys me even more than "could of".

IndieMatty 11-29-2005 05:58 PM

Re: Nominations for Best \"Rock\" Album of 2005
 
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which is for all intensive purposes

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I heard someone say this once and thought that I simply misheard, until my friends convinced me otherwise. Quick, edit!

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You probably need to tell him its intents.

SL__72 11-29-2005 06:07 PM

Re: Nominations for Best \"Rock\" Album of 2005
 
What?? Hes only talking about the most intensive purposes, ya know? Like purposes that are super intense.

ThaSaltCracka 11-29-2005 06:18 PM

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Why can't people, who obviously spend the time to learn and listen to a broader range of music find "new Wilcos and Becks" like The National and Sufjan.

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Its easier to let others do it for you.

It wouldnt shock me if the shins become a lot more mainstream after their next album.

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Err thats not what I meant. But yes, I agree with the shins statement.

[/ QUOTE ]yeah, that went way over his head.

Just because of you Matt, I will check this clown out.

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You like pinback right? you'll like this.

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CallMeIshmael 11-29-2005 06:25 PM

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Does someone want to post a song or two from Illinois to convince me to buy it? The only album by Sufjan I've spent time listening to is "A Sun Came" and I'm not a huge fan so far.

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FWIW, I really didnt like his old stuff, and I really like Illinois.

NLSoldier 11-29-2005 06:27 PM

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audioslave - out of exile

its not close

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AMEN!

edit-i think it also qualifies as best album of the millenium thus far.

SammyKid11 11-29-2005 06:33 PM

Re: Nominations for Best \"Rock\" Album of 2005 - The Hipster Debate
 
Okay, here's the deal, guys.

I work in music. I'm an artist, a label owner, a record producer. And sure, I've heard of your Iron & Wine's, your Sufjan's, and your National's of the world. However, when I listen to stuff like this, I'm generally reminded that the only way I would ever truly get "into" it was if I did the same amount of drugs that I did in college.

There is a REASON this stuff isn't popular, ya'll...and it has nothing to do with corporate radio conspiracies or closed-minded fans. It has to do with the fact that it simply isn't music that is DESIGNED to connect with large numbers of people. Now, I'm not saying none of it is good music. Some of it is.

And some of it is really low-budget, tinny-sounding, badly-produced, quirky-for-the-sake-of-quirky, our-drummer-couldn't-find-beat-one-bar-one-with-a-sawed-off-shotgun-at-twelve-paces, our-autotuner-is-ready-to-simply-decapitate-our-vocalist, oh-my-god-I'm-so-cool-because-no-one-gets-me horse crap that sounds like it was recorded inside my toilet bowl.

And if that's your thing, then cool. What I won't do is grant that you're cooler than me because I truly, honestly believe that Out of Exile is, hands-down, THE best rock album of the year. Let's forget for a second that most of the stuff you "hipsters" are talking about isn't even rock, based on anything but the very loosest definitions of the word. Let's simply focus on the wealth of great songwriting, powerful arrangements, superior vocal performances, exciting solos, and exquisite production values on that particular album. For people to laugh and joke about the fact that it was nominated just SCREAMS that whoever did knows NOTHING about music. If it's not your thing to like music BECAUSE alot of other people like it, fine (though that's more closed-minded than what you accuse popular-music fans of being). But to have a problem with an album of that magnitude being nominated for best ROCK album of 2005 truly shows your ass.

As for me, in terms of a new artist who I like immensely, I'll go with Augustana's "Stars and Boulevards." That album has a lot of depth, changes gears very nicely, and the singer's not all that accurate - so it should give you indie-heads something to get excited about.

Anyway, that's my rant.

scrub 11-29-2005 06:47 PM

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It's almost that time...

I'll begin. As much as no album has ever affected me as much as Illinois. In fact, I doubt I will ever like an album more than that. I have to say that overall, the best album that came out in 05 is The National - Alligator.

Et tu?

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Claiming that Illinois is a "rock" album is a stretch.

scrub

uw_madtown 11-29-2005 06:48 PM

Re: Nominations for Best \"Rock\" Album of 2005
 
I wrote lots about how stupid this "I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THEM THEY CAN'T BE THE BEST" argument is, but it just kept going and going. So instead of writing an essay on pop culture, the history of mass media, and how one evaluates the quality of art and entertainment, I'll just insist that it's stupid. Because it is really, really [censored] stupid.

In other news, [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Spoon's Gimme Fiction and New Pornographer's Twin Cinema, among many other albums listed here.

IndieMatty 11-29-2005 06:50 PM

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It's almost that time...

I'll begin. As much as no album has ever affected me as much as Illinois. In fact, I doubt I will ever like an album more than that. I have to say that overall, the best album that came out in 05 is The National - Alligator.

Et tu?

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Claiming that Illinois is a "rock" album is a stretch.

scrub

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I should have just put "indie". Yes, this album is not rock and roll. More like folk.


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