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J_V 11-11-2005 06:30 AM

Re: results
 
Obviously you give them the "statue." Do not talk, move, or blind until your opponents cards hit the muck or are shown.

Ulysses 11-11-2005 06:34 AM

Re: results
 
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Obviously you give them the "statue." Do not talk, move, or blind until your opponents cards hit the muck or are shown.

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Once you Internet kids get better at live poker, you will actually know what they have and won't need this nonsense.

Schneids 11-11-2005 07:08 AM

Re: results
 
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Obviously you give them the "statue." Do not talk, move, or blind until your opponents cards hit the muck or are shown.

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Once you Internet kids get better at live poker, you will actually know what they have and won't need this nonsense.

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Once you live oldies get better at poker you can just muck your king high without announcing it and waiting to see what we called you down with since you should already know what we have?? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Diablo sorry your logic sucks.

NLSoldier 11-11-2005 07:14 AM

Re: results
 
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Obviously you give them the "statue." Do not talk, move, or blind until your opponents cards hit the muck or are shown.

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Once you Internet kids get better at live poker, you will actually know what they have and won't need this nonsense.

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Once you live oldies get better at poker you can just muck your king high without announcing it and waiting to see what we called you down with since you should already know what we have?? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Diablo sorry your logic sucks.

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NH mikey [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Ulysses 11-11-2005 07:37 AM

Re: results
 
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Obviously you give them the "statue." Do not talk, move, or blind until your opponents cards hit the muck or are shown.

[/ QUOTE ]

Once you Internet kids get better at live poker, you will actually know what they have and won't need this nonsense.

[/ QUOTE ]

Once you live oldies get better at poker you can just muck your king high without announcing it and waiting to see what we called you down with since you should already know what we have?? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Diablo sorry your logic sucks.

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The dude already said King-high. Not sure why you kids find this all so confusing.

Edited to add: This is very different from the guy just sitting there not showing or saying "I missed."

Baulucky 11-11-2005 08:04 AM

Re: results
 
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The dude already said King-high. Not sure why you kids find this all so confusing.


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Diablo: "The Dude" doesn't have King High (there's an Ace on the board), is lying, slow-rolling and was just paid $300 to show his hand. Instead he wants to see the kid's hand without showing his (angle shooter?). I suspect you have already changed your opinion on this particular case or will, by the end of this thread. I suspect the real problem is that you have one up for BK or Stox or anyone that seem to be making serious dough and talking about it, even in subtle ways. OK, maybe not so subtle.

"The dude" obviously has friends on the table and is pissed because a kid has just taken his $. The solution to the scolding given to the kid by the third guy has to be dealt with then and there. I'd be inclined to say : "NONYA". And when he says "What?". "NONYA FIRKING BUSINESS".

Domination is more than a poker thing. IMO.

NLSoldier 11-11-2005 08:06 AM

Re: results
 
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The dude already said King-high. Not sure why you kids find this all so confusing.


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Diablo: "The Dude" doesn't have King High (there's an Ace on the board), is lying, slow-rolling and was just paid $300 to show his hand. Instead he wants to see the kid's hand without showing his (angle shooter?). I suspect you have already changed your opinion on this particular case or will, by the end of this thread. I suspect the real problem is that you have one up for BK or Stox or anyone that seem to be making serious dough and talking about it, even in subtle ways. OK, maybe not so subtle.

"The dude" obviously has friends on the table and is pissed because a kid has just taken his $. The solution to the scolding given to the kid by the third guy has to be dealt with then and there. I'd be inclined to say : "NONYA". And when he says "What?". "NONYA FIRKING BUSINESS".

Domination is more than a poker thing. IMO.

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lol I think there are some pretty bad assumptions in here. But I still agree with the conclusion that diablo is wrong.

Ulysses 11-11-2005 08:52 AM

Re: results
 
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The dude already said King-high. Not sure why you kids find this all so confusing.


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Diablo: "The Dude" doesn't have King High (there's an Ace on the board), is lying, slow-rolling and was just paid $300 to show his hand. Instead he wants to see the kid's hand without showing his (angle shooter?). I suspect you have already changed your opinion on this particular case or will, by the end of this thread. I suspect the real problem is that you have one up for BK or Stox or anyone that seem to be making serious dough and talking about it, even in subtle ways. OK, maybe not so subtle.

"The dude" obviously has friends on the table and is pissed because a kid has just taken his $. The solution to the scolding given to the kid by the third guy has to be dealt with then and there. I'd be inclined to say : "NONYA". And when he says "What?". "NONYA FIRKING BUSINESS".

Domination is more than a poker thing. IMO.

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I have little idea WTF you are talking about.

Ulysses 11-11-2005 08:57 AM

Re: results
 
FYI, a chat I just had, and hopefully my last word on this topic:

[04:37] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: omg
[04:37] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: dont tell me you are a non straddler
[04:38] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: when the whole table is stradling
[04:39] diablo: what?
[04:39] diablo: it is not against the rules
[04:40] diablo: it is an advantage
[04:40] diablo: to not straddle
[04:40] diablo: you lose money when you straddle
[04:41] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: not if you not straddling means everyone else is gonna stop
[04:41] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: which is usually the case
[04:41] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: even worse is ppl who keep the rock in rock games
[04:41] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: btw nice trap, i fell right in
[04:41] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: sorta
[04:42] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: but i think they are very diff situations
[04:43] diablo: fair enough
[04:43] diablo: i am just pointing out however
[04:43] diablo: wow
[04:43] diablo: you just jumped all over me
[04:43] diablo: saying
[04:43] diablo: OH NO
[04:43] diablo: YOU ARE NOT THAT GUY!?
[04:43] diablo: PLEASE TELL ME NOT
[04:43] diablo: that guy?
[04:43] diablo: the guy who chooses not to put in extra dead money?
[04:43] diablo: "omg not the non-straddler"
[04:43] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: lol
[04:43] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: well
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: i was thinkin of one in particular
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: that i cant stand
[04:44] diablo: and then you on the flip side are like
[04:44] diablo: no no no
[04:44] diablo: BK HAS RIGHT TO SEE HIS CARDS
[04:44] diablo: HE MUST ROLL FIRST
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: ok
[04:44] diablo: OTHERWISE HE GETS FREE INFO
[04:44] diablo: you do not see
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: heres the difference as i see it
[04:44] diablo: how those two things
[04:44] diablo: how you cannot make both arguments?
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: i see your point
[04:44] diablo: you should have been saying
[04:44] diablo: yep
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: but
[04:44] diablo: straddle if you want
[04:44] diablo: dont otherwise
[04:44] diablo: it's optional!
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: i agree
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: it is
[04:44] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: but what i hate
[04:44] diablo: sorry man
[04:45] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: is when everyone agrees to do it under the condition that everyone else will
[04:45] diablo: i just cant discuss this with you
[04:45] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: and then one guy wont
[04:45] diablo: if you claim that being the non-straddler is dickish
[04:45] diablo: yet
[04:45] diablo: making the other guy roll his losing hand
[04:45] diablo: is not
[04:45] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: if everyone agreed to show their cards after the villian announces king high
[04:45] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: then i would too
[04:45] diablo: that is illogical
[04:45] diablo: dude
[04:45] diablo: the straddling is OPTIONAL
[04:45] diablo: everyone else
[04:45] diablo: can still straddle!
[04:46] diablo: why are you blaiming that guy?
[04:46] diablo: wow
[04:46] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: but they wont if that guy doenst
[04:46] diablo: aha
[04:46] diablo: so now you are saying
[04:46] diablo: if one guy contributes towards the non-fun nature of the table
[04:46] diablo: he is hurting the whole table
[04:46] diablo: thus a dick
[04:46] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: right
[04:46] diablo: ok.....
[04:46] diablo: CONTINUE WITH THAT LOGIC
[04:46] diablo: WHEN IT COMES TO SHOWDOWN

[04:46] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: lol
[04:46] diablo: lol?
[04:47] diablo: serioulsy
[04:47] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: yeah
[04:47] diablo: how is it different
[04:47] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: im loling
[04:47] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: cuz im basically pwned
[04:47] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: but
[04:47] diablo: you are just making my point
[04:47] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: its just not the same
[04:47] diablo: you think
[04:47] diablo: it is dickish to not contribute to the greater good of the table!
[04:47] diablo: fun
[04:47] diablo: gamb00l
[04:47] diablo: good times
[04:47] diablo: straddle it up
[04:47] diablo: rock it up
[04:47] diablo: WAIT
[04:47] diablo: WAIT
[04:47] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: because like i said, there isnt an agreement amongst everyone else, to show when they say K high
[04:47] diablo: KING-HIGH?
[04:47] diablo: SHOW YOUR HAND SIR
[04:47] diablo: SHOW IT
[04:48] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: show it or muck it
[04:48] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: im fine if they just wanna muck it
[04:48] diablo: hahahha
[04:48] diablo: dude, here is my simple point
[04:48] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: but why should i have to show mine if they dont show theirs
[04:48] diablo: anyone who argues that bk's move is cool
[04:48] diablo: should also be supporting
[04:48] diablo: the non-straddler
[04:48] diablo: that is all
[04:48] diablo: my last word

[04:49] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: god
[04:49] MakeHimShowHisLosingHand: i cant beleive i fell into that trap

NLSoldier 11-11-2005 09:00 AM

Re: results
 
I was the n00b who got pwned by diablo in this argument. And based on what I said the part he posted its hard to argue with his logic. But here is my final point which I also stated at the end of our convo.

MakeHimShowHisLosingHand:ok heres my last point, i think its the guy who is not immediatly showing or mucking, that is the one being a dick and contributing to the non-fun atmosphere, our action is only a response to his, thats like if one guy doesnt straddle, so then we decide we dont want to either, but only after someone else doesnt


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