View Full Version : A mistake of folding

David BB
03-09-2004, 08:26 PM
I made a mistake earlier today that probably cost me a place in the money. Early in the SNG I was in the big blind with 88, it was raised T100 to me and I decided to fold. As you can see from the hand history below I would have tripled up had I made the call. Of course one shouldn't be results oriented, but looking back I can't help thinking this should be an easy call - not sure what made me decide to fold /images/graemlins/smile.gif

How big a raise should I be willing to call here? What if I had been on the button?

PokerStars Game #326461242: Tournament #1159224, Hold'em No Limit - Level I
(10/20) - 2004/03/09 - 17:52:12 (ET)
Table '1159224 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: dwarrior (1400 in chips)
Seat 2: blasting (3170 in chips)
Seat 3: Fireitback (1440 in chips)
Seat 4: hef23 (1640 in chips)
Seat 5: MS DENALI (1420 in chips)
Seat 6: David BB (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: #1big-lick (1260 in chips)
Seat 8: shtimp20 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: t d todd (170 in chips)
MS DENALI: posts small blind 10
David BB: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to David BB [8d 8c]
#1big-lick: folds
shtimp20: raises 20 to 40
t d todd: folds
dwarrior: raises 60 to 100
blasting: folds
Fireitback: folds
hef23: folds
MS DENALI: calls 90
David BB: folds
shtimp20: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [6s Ts 8h]
MS DENALI: checks
shtimp20: bets 40
dwarrior: raises 200 to 240
MS DENALI: folds
shtimp20: calls 200
*** TURN *** [6s Ts 8h] [5c]
shtimp20: bets 1160 and is all-in
dwarrior: calls 1060 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [6s Ts 8h 5c] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shtimp20: shows [7h 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
dwarrior: shows [Ad As] (a pair of Aces)
shtimp20 collected 2920 from pot

03-09-2004, 08:52 PM
I think it is close because you have an EP raiser in front of you who has just been re-raised. If he has a big hand and makes a big raise, you are probably going to have to lay down and surrender your 100 chips with no flop. If your call would close the action, then calling 80 when you have a stack of 1500 to try and flop a set is OK.

03-09-2004, 08:52 PM
With not one but two raises ahead of you, I can't fold 88 fast enough. At best you are against overcards and at worst and overpair. Which makes you a small favorite or a huge dog.

Now the raise was less than 10% of you stack so I don't think calling is really bad but if you don't flop a set you really don't have much of a hand.

03-09-2004, 09:11 PM
I fold there as well. Early in the tourney you want to be able to limp into pots or at the very worse pay 2-3x the BB to get into pots with drawing hands like suited connectors or low pocket pairs...no problem at all here with your fold imo.