View Full Version : casino arizona t2 cheating

01-31-2002, 03:48 AM
anyone know the story on cheating that went on back when they had the t2. i heard a few people got banned or something.


01-31-2002, 07:56 PM
Dear Brad,

A couple of years ago a local Phoenix newspaper ran a series of articles on supposed irregularities at Casino Arizona.

The Pima Indians (who have some very sharp members) surprised every one by asking the FBI to come in and investigate the allegations.

The FBI does have investigative authority on Native American reservations.

Some high limit players felt uncomfortable about having a team of FBI agents going over hundreds of hours of their activities.

I don’t remember any allegations that cheating was documented in any of the games.

There were some questions about the propriety of dealers and employees buying chips for players and loaning monies back and forth.

The concern was that if a dealer got a few grand down to players at the table, that that dealer might loose his objectivity.

The director of the Card room was released and the director of the high limit section was released.

Several players were prohibited from coming to the card room. It was my understanding that they were restricted because of allegations of inappropriate loaning of money.

Which is interesting because Arizona does not have any state statutes restricting the loaning of money.

In the long run it may help the high limit games.

Because as I understand it while the FBI has finished their review of those allegations. They are prepared to renew and enlarge their investigation if any new allegations are made.

If I decided to try to run a scam on a game I wouldn’t want to run one in game that possibly was being monitored by the FBI.

Because you might just end up playing your next hand, heads up against a federal judge.

And if you lost that game you might literally be playing your ass off in a federal pen.

I hope that this post has helped answer your question.

I am certain that other forum members can help answer your question in more detail.

Most Sincerely,

Doc AZ

02-01-2002, 01:02 AM
It's been a while, and I don't remember everything, but Doc's story sounds about right. There were also allegations of money laundering. Mary K's husband was one of those let go, so was Mugsy (you might have played with him at the Gila River Tourneys). I think they both lost their gaming licenses also, and Eddie K is suing over this.

02-01-2002, 01:54 AM
Hi Brett,

I am sure you are right. I have been playing with Mugsie at the river.

If they had just been able to run a tighter ship, I feel that that incident could have been avoided.

Eddie could have said that he had managed a poker room that had developed into one of the busier ones in the country.

And if he had wanted to move, he probably could have transferred to one of several successful card rooms around the country.

Now he is a poker industry man, in an industry that requires a license, and his has been revoked.



02-01-2002, 10:38 PM
'Mary K's husband was one of those let go'

(one of) her ex-husband(s) still works as a prop (only plays low limit).