View Full Version : What bankroll do you recomend for SNGs? N/M

02-12-2004, 01:58 AM

jerome baker
02-12-2004, 03:32 AM
"people" recommend 25 buy ins.
double that to 50, just to be "safe".
ultimately, it all comes down to what you are comfortable with.

02-12-2004, 11:12 AM
I have no doubt that the 25 or 50 buy in recco is a good one, but what I did was put in $100 at Party to see if I had any aptitude for tourny play. I played that hundred in the 5 and 10 dollar SNG's for about 2 months before going broke. I decided I was competitive and enjoyed playing so I deposited another $100. I plugged a huge leak in my bankroll by not playing the 5+1 multi-table (2 a week is $48 a month, with no return, at least for me). I am now up to $230 after reading this site and improving my game. If I can get my bankroll up to $400 I want to move up to the $20 + 2's. I guess my point is you can get by on less. As others have pointed out, the $5+1 at party are rip off compared to the 10+1, so if you want to play $5 SNG's try Poker Stars.

Good luck.

02-12-2004, 11:16 AM
I use twenty as the absolute minimum before moving up to the next level, but for someone starting out 25-30 can't hurt.

If you are a successful player (ROI of 25% or more) I think you will find 20 buyins sufficient.


02-14-2004, 12:56 AM

02-14-2004, 12:56 AM
I use only 10. But I leave myself 10 at the one below it, and so forth. So If I lose the 10 buy ins at the highest level, I play the one below it till Im back up enough to play at that level again. This way I can experiment sooner but still would have to lose alot in a row to go broke. In other words, play the 5's till 165$ (10 $5.50's and 10 $11.00) then move up to the $11, and 385$ move up to the $22. If you were to lose 10 straight $20's, and got down to $165, you could play the 10's again till you have $385. This forces you to play enough to win your bankroll for the level above what you are currently playing with the winnings off your current level. And thats alot of tourneys for most people. If you lose 10 straight your first shot at a higher level, your probably not ready anyway. My longest losing streak so far is 4...but Im knocking on wood big time right now, cause Im sure my time is coming...

02-14-2004, 01:24 AM

I do something close to that with my bank roll and moving up to bigger limits.

02-14-2004, 05:44 AM
As you increase in limits it is pretty common for your ROI to go down. A good player could probably get an ROI of as much as 70-80% at the $5 level, but less and less as they moved up in limits.
At 10+1, I think 50-60% is probably close to max.
At 30+3, I'd guess 40-50%
At 50+5, probably 25-45%
At 100+9, probably 15-35%

Strictly speaking, this doesn't have to mean more variance, but it probably will.

This suggests to me that as you move up in limits, you should have a bigger bankroll size in relation to the buy in size, not just bigger because of the larger buy ins.

I would probably try for:

10 buy-ins at $5+1 (don't play $5+1)
15 buy ins at 10+1
20 buy ins at 30+3
30 buy ins at 50+5
50 buy ins at 100+9 or bigger

I also think that your drop point should be your minimum buy in point and no less. Yes, that might mean playing a few smaller limit tourneys after even one loss for a while, but if you can really beat the higher limit, it will not be long before you take off.

Don't misunderstand my experience here - I play primarily 10+1 with a few 30s and 50s so what do I really know? I also have long surpassed the 20 buy in point for 30+3 and do not play them regularly (I tried for a while, but in the end was not making as much as 10+1 with way more stress. I hope to move up fully this year however). What makes you comfortable (ie-play your best/most profitable) should be your first priority.

Brad S