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02-10-2004, 06:05 PM
It was a strange one tonight - few wild plays, but mostly pretty solid poker. I enjoyed it...funny that!

Ok here we go:

CrisBrown first one out - AQ beaten by 77 on a A7x flop.

shub raises to 90, spike_tt makes it 200. unknown calls.
Flop comes with an ATx Spike moves in, kieron (unknown) calls. Spike has AK, Kieron has AQ. All stands up. Shub stands clear

Once again shub raises to 90 stoneii raises to 300 this time. Shub moves in, stoneii calls. Shub shows QQ, stoneii has the rockets. Extra Rocket comes on the turn to confirm things.

A lot of money shifts around between the two remaining unknowns

DrPhysic fails to convince anyone /images/graemlins/smile.gif and loses a lot to a few bigger bullies than he is. (namely me and an unknown)

Physic makes a comeback by playing JJ as a small bet reraise against McMelch who takes the bait. There was an A on the flop tho.. but the Doc holds on

McMelchior takes a nice pot with 44 that teams up on the flop against unknown and DrPhysic. Doc gives up again leaving him with T250

The doc and McMelch both bow out to stoneii when he gets a nice little flush, slightly bigger than McMelch's.

Spike TT loses to a straight

Down to the final table.....

I all but take out PrayingMantis when my KK takes down against his JJ

He leaves one hand later

two hands later I double up again when my KK beats MobyDick's AKs - Sorry Moby

Stoneii loses with QQ against an unknowns JK

orrjan(random) who now believes 2+2 is a swingers club has 8000. I have 3.3k, hedged(random) has 3.8k, MobyDick has 2.6, HeyRocker has 2.8, iller(random) has 1.7, stoneii 2.6k, PokerJon 1.5.

Stoneii goes out with a straight against orrjans flush. He got the money in on the turn and orrjan needed the river and got it. Hard luck stoneii

iller takes a chunk of orrjan when TJs hits a T to beat QKo

PokerJon has been doing nothing but move in all night, and Moby is annoyed, calls with AQ only to face AK, niether hit a thing and Moby is down to 900, PokerJon is up to 4000.

I pick up quite a few pots PF, they look like steals but some are are not.

Poker Jon almost annihlates orrjan with trip JJJ.

Orrjan lives with J2 which two pairs on the flop to hold of MobyDicks AQ. First sign of the pattern maps coming out...

one hand later (Moby has KQs, Hedged has KJo):

Dealer: Game #281742148: orrjan wins pot (975)
Dealer: Starting new hand: #281743419
Dealer: Poker Jon posts the ante 25
Dealer: orrjan posts the ante 25
Dealer: t_perkin 2+2 posts the ante 25
Dealer: hedged posts the ante 25
Dealer: MobyDick posts the ante 25
Dealer: heyrocker posts the ante 25
Dealer: iller posts the ante 25
Dealer: t_perkin 2+2 posts small blind 200
Dealer: hedged posts big blind 400
Dealer: Dealing Hole Cards
orrjan: steal k - 8
Dealer: MobyDick raises 70 to 470 and is all-in
Dealer: heyrocker folds
DrPhysic [observer]: what'd perkin do? hijack a chip truck?
Dealer: iller folds
Dealer: Poker Jon folds
Dealer: orrjan folds
Dealer: t_perkin 2+2 folds
hedged: time to see how rags hold up
Dealer: hedged calls 70
Dealer: Dealing Flop: [Td 9c Kh]
hedged: Q
hedged: Q
Dealer: Dealing Turn: [5h]
hedged: Q
hedged: Q
Dealer: Dealing River: [Qs]
Dealer: hedged has a straight, Nine to King
Dealer: MobyDick has a pair of Kings
bkerins [observer]: <oy>
heyrocker: wow
t_perkin 2+2: awwwwwwwwwww
Dealer: Game #281743419: hedged wins pot (1315) with a straight, Nine to King
Dealer: MobyDick finished the tournament in 7th place

MobyDick [observer]: knew it

Hedger obviously knew it too - second sign of the pattern maps....

iller and orrjan are in all out war, orrjan's luck hold with Jx against Qx. Iller dies. Orrjan *definately* has a pattern map

Down to 5:

Me 7.4k
PokerJon 7k
orrjan 2.8k
hedged 4k
heyrocker 2.1k

blinds 300/600

hedged raises to 1800, heyrocker moves in. rocker loses unlucky.

I take out orrjan (finally!) when I call his bluff on the flop AJ2. I have A9s he has K4.

I nearly take out PokerJOn with KJ against KT he is saved by 7,K,6,Q,6

next hadn we both move in again with AT suited all sqaure

blinds 400/800
me 14k
hedged 8k
poker jon 3k

I take out hedged with AK against AJ

me 23k
PokerJon 4k

A few hands into heads up I raise with 75s, PokerJon moves in, I (have to) call.
Poker Jon has 44, I have well.. 75s

Flop comes 7QA, turn 7, river 5.

Pattern maps NEVER fail.

gg everyone.

I had more than my fair share of cards -but reckon I played them ok tonight.

Hope to see you all next week.

I wont win again, now that I have taken my "rake" for organising these things /images/graemlins/smile.gif.
PokerStars are really very helpful about organising such "circumstances". *And* they have no problem with me using my Pattern Map (I am using the Log9 function btw. with a little extra function that eliminates the Baysian remainder giving me an extra 2 percentage points in prediction quality).

02-10-2004, 06:27 PM
lol. Good report. Congrats on the win.

Why would Shub move in against stoneii's reraise with only QQ? Who did he think he was up against - Partypoker fish?

Brad S
...AKA Shub314

02-10-2004, 06:27 PM

Poker Jon
02-10-2004, 06:55 PM

I get the feeling that you didnt like my all in or fold attitude tonight!!

The reasons were 3 fold:

1) I had about T1200 coming into the final table with blinds at 75/150. Don't like my chances min raising with 9 players.

2) I had that idiot orrjan next to me, who I felt would call with any high card - he had already doubled my A8 up with K2s earlier. He also wasn't going to dump any half looking hand with a 2 or 3x raise pre-flop. So I might as well try and get him to double me up!

3) the way the flop hit me all night I was as well getting it all pre-flop!!!

I thought it was a tough gamne tonight. A lot of steals and not many flops seen. I only saw 13% of the flops (maybe that was coz everyone was scared off by my all in's)!!

Hope you tipped the dealer well for that 75o boat. I so expected the 4 to hit the River.

Enjoyable once again!!


02-10-2004, 07:22 PM
hehe. Actually I think the allin strategy is a good one when shortstacked (but not too shortstacked) against a table of reasonable to good players.

They aint gonna call you with nothing, and with anyluck you will be able to get hold of a few blinds before someone calls you, then with a bit of luck you will hold up.

And as you say you had that lucky loon behind you.

I reckon you played it all very well.

It was 75s btw.

I play pretty aggressive heads up, especially when the stacks and blinds were as they were. It usually pays off


p.s. here is the final standings:

1: t_perkin 2+2 (Akureyri), $72.00 (40%)
2: Poker Jon (Chigwell), $54.00 (30%)
3: hedged (Mahopac), $36.00 (20%)
4: orrjan (Kansas City), $18.00 (10%)
5: heyrocker (Chicago),
6: iller (Stockholm),
7: MobyDick (KÝbenhavn),
8: Stone_Eyes (Bangor) = Stoneii
9: HelmetSky (Ramat-Gan), = PrayingMantis
10: spike_tt (Swindon), = Spike
11: Big Gareth (Inverness),
12: Rhonda B (New York City), = McMelchior
13: DrPhysic (San Antonio),
14: slyrap (staten island),
15: ldblly (somerville),
16: Shub314 (Victoria), = AleoMagus
17: keiron (london),
18: CrisBrown (Wesley Chapel),

02-10-2004, 07:27 PM
129 hands played and saw flop:
- 4 times out of 23 while in small blind (17%)
- 8 times out of 24 while in big blind (33%)
- 8 times out of 82 in other positions (9%)
- a total of 20 times out of 129 (15%)

Pots won at showdown - 7 out of 8 (87%)
Pots won without showdown - 19

My SB figure is very low. This was not intentional - I just never seemed to have a playable hand, and there was a lot of PF raising going on.

02-10-2004, 07:59 PM
And how about that?

62 hands played and saw flop:
- 2 times out of 8 while in small blind (25%)
- 0 times out of 8 while in big blind (0%)
- 3 times out of 46 in other positions (6%)
- a total of 5 times out of 62 (8%)

Pots won at showdown - 0 out of 2 (0%)
Pots won without showdown - 5

2+2 SNG. We can name them now: 0% in BB.

Always somebody raising big. Yes, and the dealer *really* liked me.

But it was a good game. Though I hardly remember playing so little...


02-10-2004, 08:49 PM
I was really dissappointed when you didn't get the case 7 at the end.

02-10-2004, 11:14 PM
Hi all,

Thanks for the tourney tonight. It was very enjoyable as usual.
Congrats Tim for a nice victory. I got little impatient at the final table, I was playing a PLO multi at the same time, and it was not doing very well. It eventually got better(I finished 2nd).

Take care,

PokerStars Tournament #954461, Pot Limit Omaha
Buy-In: $10.00/$1.00
152 players
Total Prize Pool: $4820.00
Tournament started - 2004/02/10 - 14:30:00 (ET)

Dear MobyDick,

You finished the tournament in 2nd place.
A $964.00 award has been credited to your Real Money account.

You earned 175.29 tournament leader points in this tournament.
For information about our tournament leader board, see our web site at

Thank you for participating.

02-10-2004, 11:36 PM
let me know when the next one is, can't wait to kick ya'll asses!

02-11-2004, 01:42 AM
Thanks for a nice report, Tim, and congrats on the victory!

- These 2+2 satellites are really the high poker-point of the week for me, it is so much more fun playing with an insightful and friendly mob!


McMelchior (Johan)

02-11-2004, 04:17 AM
s'allright Brad

Orrjan showed me how to take QQ down with only KJ, you evidently don't need AA to reraise just 1 card bigger.

QQ now becoming my second worst hand after JJ!!

Tim, as usual, enjoyed and look forward to next week


02-11-2004, 04:25 AM
By the way

I vote Mantis 2 be second next week, 3 out of my 4 attempts at these tournies, he's been 1 place below me! (except of course the week he did get 2nd /images/graemlins/mad.gif)


Poker Jon
02-11-2004, 04:35 AM
Yeah considering I came to the final table with T1200, I was pretty pleased.

Also considering I only had one pair of Kings (1st hand on the final table where I raised all in to no callers) and AK only once (paid off by AQ), I wasn't too disappointed to come second.

I have to say that I do really enjoy these SNG's. Any chance of Pokerstars allowing us to set up a table just for 2+2'ers, or do we have to have the moronic orrjan's with us all the time.

It has been a long time since I have seen someone survive so many times with a River card and putting beats on people the way he did. 3 times on my table initially he won with A4o. Every time he was behind on the flop,, and everytime he hit a river card!!

Suppose thats the reason why we all love poker!!!


02-11-2004, 09:54 AM
Hope the shot about Rhonda being your granddaughter was taken in fun. Actually I'm fat 60 and not quite as balding, I have no room to rag anybody else.

Like you, I truly enjoy playing with this bunch each week. My only problem is remembering to play poker while I'm laughing my ass off at the chat line.


02-11-2004, 10:08 AM

02-11-2004, 02:25 PM
This shows that there is no completely dead money. However, when you look at the number of non-2+2ers (~20-30%?) and how few they have moneyed in (am I right that none have won? how about 2nd?), and seeing orrjan not even get 2nd with this luck, shows that the dead money approximation is pretty good. Their stacks are worth less than half what they paid for them.


02-11-2004, 03:19 PM
I don't think that any non 2+2ers have come first or second in a euro-time game.


Sheriff Fatman
02-11-2004, 06:54 PM
The stats won't show it but I believe I may have set a record last night for shortest time in a Euro SnG that is unlikely to be beaten.

Waited for the log-on, saw Tim's name and registered. 5 seconds later my girlfriend comes in to 'advise' (i.e. threaten) that tea will be ready in 5 minutes.

Cue immediate withdrawal from tournament. I then watch the seats fill up painfully slowly while failing to think of an excuse to enter and get back to the table after 10 minutes of posting and folding.

So, in and out of the tournament in approximately 15 seconds without a hand being dealt. Beat that! At least I managed to break even which is my best monetary result yet. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Hope to see you next week.