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Max_Speed
09-06-2003, 03:58 AM
Hi,
Just wondering if anyone can give me a brief primer in calculating pot odds in split pot games. Any rules of thumb would be helpful. It really confuses me.

Thanks,
Max

Wake up CALL
09-06-2003, 09:53 AM
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Hi,
Just wondering if anyone can give me a brief primer in calculating pot odds in split pot games. Any rules of thumb would be helpful. It really confuses me.

Thanks,
Max

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Pot odds are pot odds no matter whether it is a split pot game or not. Are you trying to ask something else?

Cyrus
09-06-2003, 12:00 PM
"Just wondering if anyone can give me a brief primer in calculating pot odds in split pot games. Any rules of thumb would be helpful."

You should first determine how much of the pot you're contesting, all or half of it? If you're going after the whole pot, you do your pot calculations the usual way. If you determined that you can only go after half of it, you should be halving the size of the pot in your calculations, in general, e.g. when you're putting \$5 into a \$50 pot, you're getting 5-1, not 10-1.

Max_Speed
09-07-2003, 12:51 AM
Well my questions are more specific to Omaha 8. I guess I get confused with calculating my outs in relation to the pot.

Say for example I have high cards only such as A /images/graemlins/spade.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gifQ /images/graemlins/heart.gifT /images/graemlins/heart.gif. The flop comes Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. I calculate my outs as being 3 outs for the whole pot and 9 outs for half the pot. This just confuses me. Do I have to know two calculations? - there has to be a better way.

Then this article at the following link only proceeded to confuse me. Maybe I have the whole pot odds thing wrong.
http://renzey.casinocitytimes.com/articles/1072.html

Could you have a look at it and tell me what you think?

When I work out my pot odds in Hold 'em I do it on a next card only basis. I forget about the earlier betting rounds. For example, on the flop I have a four flush. I have nine outs - I will times that by 2 and I have close to 1 in 5 chance of hitting next card. If the pot is sufficient in size I stay. Then I'll do the whole process again to see if I should stay for the river. Maybe I'm doing them all wrong, so please let me know if I am.

Thanks,

Max

crockpot
09-07-2003, 02:29 AM
if you are competent with fairly sophisticated math, go address a post to Buzz on the other poker forum asking how to calculate your 'scoop equivalents' on a hand like this.

by the way, with your possible running straight and top two pair outs, i might call a bet with this hand, but finding the discipline to fold just the nut flush draw (or fold this hand for a raise on the flop) on a board like this will take you a long way to becoming a winning omaha h/l player.

chaos
09-09-2003, 08:27 AM
I am not sure how you are doing your math for Hold 'Em.

On the flop you have 47 unseen cards (52 in the deck minus 2 in your hand minus 3 on the board). 9 make your flush so 38 do not. 38 to 9 reduces down to 4.2 to 1.

In your Omaha/8 problem you are going to have to calculate both the turn and the river. Having the whole pot on the turn with a high hand can easily turn into half the pot when a low card comes on the river.