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AA suited
12-29-2005, 01:33 PM
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t60 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com (http://www.pregopoker.com/hhconv/convert)

UTG (t825)
UTG+1 (t580)
MP1 (t1750)
HERO (t1055)
MP3 (t1175)
CO (t840)
Button (t1115)
SB (t1690)
BB (t970)

Preflop: HERO is in MP2 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, HERO calls t30, <font color="red">MP3 raises t60</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, HERO calls t30

Flop: (t90) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, HERO? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

No reads.

Bet out or hope preflop raiser (MP3) bets so i can check raise?

and why is that line better?

12-29-2005, 01:38 PM
Giving a free card sucks so bad that it doesn't seem to be worth the risk to me so I bet.

45suited
12-29-2005, 01:41 PM
I'd defninitely bet this flop. Can't afford to give free cards and the pot is already large.

BTW, pot size is wrong on the flop as the hand is posted.

12-29-2005, 01:42 PM
I bet out on the flop. Your hand is far too vulnerable for the opponents to take a free card and catch up. If mp3 checks, any overcard on the turn practically kills your hand and you won't be able to take much pressure at all. It would be nice to have some kind of read on MP3. If I was him sitting with high cards, I would take a free card as it seems foolish cont. betting into 3 opponents on a flop any pair/piece of the flop will look him up on.

Jaran
12-29-2005, 01:48 PM
&lt;&lt;Caveat-limit player converting to NL&gt;&gt;

I'm putting in a pot-sized bet here. But I'm very confused about the pf limp. Can you explain this to me?

-Jaran

RobGW
12-29-2005, 01:56 PM
Dont monkey around with this. The pot is big already. You want to take it down now without a fight. Your hand is too vulnerable. There is only one player left to act and even though he raised PF doesnt mean he is going to bet.

Eevee
12-29-2005, 02:04 PM
I think I would t150 the flop and then be very cautious if raised or called.

-EV

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11t
12-29-2005, 02:06 PM
I bet out, check raising is going to committ you to this pot whereas if you bet out and there is a raise/re-raise behind you can fold.

Vuron00
12-29-2005, 02:10 PM
I'm betting the pot here and folding to a re-raise. If I get called behind, I'm checking the turn.

sofere
12-29-2005, 02:24 PM
Between your last two posts (this and the TPWK ITM post), you've shown that you are in love with the check raise. But you have to understand...a minraiser is not always going to go for a continuation bet. And on this flop, with that many people, I wouldn't count on one.

ZeroPointMachine
12-29-2005, 05:57 PM
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&lt;&lt;Caveat-limit player converting to NL&gt;&gt;

I'm putting in a pot-sized bet here. But I'm very confused about the pf limp. Can you explain this to me?

-Jaran

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Most good STT players advocate limping behind with pocket pairs below Queens in the early levels of the tourney. Basically just playing them for set value.

yvesaint
12-29-2005, 06:00 PM
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Most good STT players advocate limping behind with pocket pairs below Queens in the early levels of the tourney. Basically just playing them for set value.

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why yes, i love playing JJ-TT for set value in a 1000 chip game.

not. limping behind JJ-TT for set value in early levels at the 55s is playing scared. really.