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12-14-2005, 02:25 PM
U.S. Trade Deficit Hits All-Time High As Nation Sets Deficit Records With China, Others

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The U.S. trade deficit unexpectedly rose to an all-time high in October as oil shipments soared and the United States set deficit records with China, Europe, Canada and Mexico.

The Commerce Department reported that the gap between what America sells overseas and what it imports rose by 4.4 percent in October to $68.9 billion, surpassing the old record of $66 billion set in September.

So far this year, the trade deficit is running at an annual rate of $718 billion, far surpassing last year's $617.6 billion imbalance. Critics say the soaring deficit is evidence that President Bush's policy of pursuing free trade deals around the world is not working.

To counter the attacks, the administration has stepped up pressure on Europe and Japan to boost economic growth as a way of increasing demand for U.S. exports. It is also pressuring China on a number of trade issues, from textile imports to the country's currency, which American manufacturers say is being manipulated to give Chinese producers unfair trade advantages.

But lawmakers from both parties criticized the administration's approach as too tentative, saying the new deficit figure highlighted the threat to American jobs.

"Small business owners in Maine and across the nation are fighting to remain competitive with countries such as China that flagrantly disregard fair trade practices," Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, said in a statement.

Rep. Benjamin Cardin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means trade subcommittee, said the administration had "failed to craft an effective strategy to deal with China's unfair trading practices."

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters at the White House that the administration believed the best approach was to tear down barriers to American exports through free trade agreements and global trade negotiations under way this week in Hong Kong.

The deterioration of the deficit in October caught analysts by surprise. They had been forecasting that the imbalance would improve, reflecting a fall in global oil prices.

The average price per barrel of imported oil did decline slightly to $56.29, down from an average of $57.32 in September, but the volume of shipments shot up to 9.8 million barrels per day. The total bill for imports in October hit a record of $25.8 billion, up 7.8 percent from September.

A surge of Chinese shipments of televisions, toys and computers pushed America's deficit with China to a new monthly record of $20.5 billion. Through October, the deficit with China is running at an annual rate of $200 billion, far exceeding last year's imbalance of $162 billion, which had been the biggest deficit ever recorded with a single country.

On recent trips to China, both Bush and Treasury Secretary John Snow have lobbied Chinese officials to provide greater flexibility for their currency, the yuan, to find its proper value in relation to the U.S. dollar. American manufacturers contend that the Chinese are artificially depressing the yuan's value by as much as 40 percent as a way to make Chinese goods cheaper in relation to U.S. products.

While the Chinese did allow the yuan to rise by 2.1 percent this past summer, the currency has been essentially unchanged since that time.

The administration did reach an agreement recently to re-impose quotas on a wide range of clothing and textile products to stem what had been a flood of imports this year since global quotas were lifted last January. For October, imports of Chinese clothing and textiles declined by 10.9 percent from September but for the first 10 months of this year, Chinese imports are up by 47.6 percent compared to the same period in 2004.

For October, imports of goods and services rose by 2.7 percent to an all-time high of $176.4 billion, led by the surge in oil shipments. U.S. exports also rose by a slower 1.7 percent to $107.5 billion.

Critics blame the soaring trade deficits for a loss of 3 million manufacturing jobs since mid-2000 and they argue that Bush's push to strike free trade agreements eliminating all trade barriers between the United States and other nations has opened American workers to unfair competition from low-wage countries.

The United States set deficit records with most of its major trading partners including a $12.1 billion imbalance with the 25-nation European Union, a $8.1 billion imbalance with Canada, the country's largest trading partner, and a record $4.8 billion deficit with Mexico.

12-14-2005, 03:00 PM
How much of the deficit is just usurious interest on top of real debt? If one were to completely write off the usurious interest part, how would that effect the economy?

Wes ManTooth
12-14-2005, 03:13 PM
write off the interest, that would never happen so its not even worth considering how it would effect the economy.

12-14-2005, 03:24 PM
Some European countries did it after WWI. I am wondering what the consequences would be if the United States did something similar now.

12-14-2005, 04:27 PM
This is the trade deficit, not the budget deficit. This is the amount of goods we buy from other countries (imports) compared to how much we sell to other countires (exports).

12-14-2005, 05:06 PM
Just goes to show that we make high priced crap products domestically.

12-14-2005, 05:53 PM
I understand that, and usually trading in such a way will lead to a countries overall indebtedness. I am trying to see what would happen on the micro level if America stopped making interest payments on all its accumulated debt. Because we should measure value in actual goods, and not a made up convention (usury) what would America's real debt be?

12-15-2005, 07:11 AM

I think you are confusing the gov'ts budget deficit, with the trade deficit (diff between exports and imports)?

12-15-2005, 07:31 AM
This has a lot to do with the gold thread we had the other day. Gold wouldn't be at $500whatever if this weren't the case.

12-15-2005, 11:55 AM
Ok, I'll eventually make this into a separate topic. I was trying to use the topic of a deficit (be it a trading deficit or budget deficit) to spark a conversation about the true meaning of a deficit and how to deal with it. I have miserably failed, but I will be back.