View Full Version : (22$) AA Facing tough flop decision

09-20-2005, 05:18 PM
Worst case i have 5 outs, more likely 7 outs and sometimes more i think.

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15911548 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, September 20, 16:39:31 EDT 2005
Table Table 13999 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: HERO ( $725 )
Seat 3: xileh ( $740 )
Seat 4: harley881 ( $1860 )
Seat 5: genuwineal ( $735 )
Seat 7: dothog ( $405 )
Seat 8: micro1 ( $1780 )
Seat 9: robj2322 ( $1200 )
Seat 10: Estio ( $555 )
Trny:15911548 Level:2
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad Ac
genuwineal folds.
dothog folds.
micro1 calls [30].
robj2322 calls [30].
Estio folds.
HERO raises [100].
xileh folds.
harley881 folds.
micro1 calls [70].
robj2322 calls [70].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, Tc, Qc ]
micro1 is all-In [1680]
robj2322 is all-In [1100]

09-20-2005, 05:35 PM
I think you need to call it is possible that your ace is good it is possible that a King is good and barring a straight flush a club is good. In a 22 guys could easily have Top pair, Two pair, Bare King of clubs etc. Getting very good odds it is probably a +EV call.

09-20-2005, 05:50 PM
I'd be worried about the 9c though as its totally possible KcQx is in play.

Otherwise I agree on the call due to your stack and what you can win, you are probably looking at AQ, maybe KQ. Doubtful set over set unless TT pushed first and QQ called. Probably just one set.

If you're drawing dead to one card in the deck, well, so be it.

09-20-2005, 06:04 PM
I think you can raise more preflop, anyone who calls 100 will call atleast 125.

As for the flop, I think it mostly comes down to the math of drawing for a flush. And while its +EV, Im not sure if its +cEV or not. If someone can calculate this, we have our answer. If the calculations show near neutral cEV then I would call on the chance that both my opponents are super donks.


09-20-2005, 07:26 PM
This is a call through and through...top pair, nut flush draw, and as people have mentioned earlier, it's likely the K of clubs or Q is one of the people your up against hoping for another club as well.

09-20-2005, 07:37 PM
i think you have to call this. given their calls preflop, it's hard to imagine them having anything other than sets, 2 pairs, and the occasional made straight. against those hands you're actually in pretty good shape, and if one guy has the Kc flush draw you're in great shape.