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TwoNiner
08-12-2005, 02:54 PM
In a pot limit hold em game I go to the house has insurance available. The players can work something out betweeen themselves or the player in the lead can take the house insurance which is of course slanted against the best hand. In the few instances that I do make deals when in the lead I prefer just to deal the river twice rather than haggle trying to get a reasonable price. Is this ever a bad idea for the hand in the lead? Say against a 2 outer, or 14 outer? I had always heard and always intuitively thought it was a fair way to retain the correct odds and split your risk, but I heard some of the other players talking about how it wasn't a good idea in some situations, i think they were talking about being up against very few outs. To me it still seems accurate since if you dealt the river all the way through the deck you would have to end up with the correct result. Am I wrong here?

bobman0330
08-12-2005, 03:15 PM
Two lessons here:
1. Dealing the river (or the turn and the river, or the entire board) multiple times does not change EV, but lowers variance.
2. Unless you practice terrible game selection, never doubt your instincts about probability or poker on the basis of what people at the table tell you.

pzhon
08-14-2005, 12:36 PM
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2. Unless you practice terrible game selection, never doubt your instincts about probability or poker on the basis of what people at the table tell you.

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That is a good observation. It is amazing how much nonsense you hear at a poker table. I'm going to start keeping a log of the most ridiculous statements.

After all of the money went in on a 654 flop in a recent PL game, I learned that

/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 87s is crap.
/images/graemlins/diamond.gif Only a fish would call a raise with 87s.
/images/graemlins/diamond.gif AA is an 11-1 favorite over 87s.
/images/graemlins/diamond.gif I'm a lucky idiot.