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07-22-2005, 04:15 PM
Five to the flop.....TPshi$$yK from the blinds

One of those hands we all see from time to time. I would love to hear your line.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t1340)
MP1 (t1900)
MP2 (t1200)
MP3 (t905)
CO (t1225)
Button (t1365)
SB (t2095)
Hero (t2240)
UTG (t1230)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, MP1 calls t50, MP2 calls t50, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t275) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t50</font>, MP2 calls t50, MP3 folds, Hero calls t50, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t425) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t50</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, MP1 calls t200, MP2 folds.

River: (t975) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, MP1 calls t250

07-22-2005, 04:22 PM
I like the flop line.

I like the turn line, except I make my raise bigger. It's a very draw heavy board, and I want to charge them. I probably C/R to something like 450 here.

Terrible river.. I would have a tough time betting here, but I think if you want to see a showdown you have to. Looks like a nice blocking bet, if you're raised you can easily fold. But that card improved a lot of hands (two pair possibilities, obvious straight possibilities), and it looks nasty.

So I like the line. I would just make a bigger turn C/R.

07-22-2005, 04:30 PM
I can't invest this much this early in a pot where I'm potentially drawing dead.

I probably check-call this the whole way and try to keep the pot small.

07-22-2005, 04:33 PM
What did you put your opponent on here?

I'm thinking a paired flush draw, especially after the turn call.

07-22-2005, 04:58 PM
flop: top pair, whoopty-doo. planned to fold to anything remotely close to 1/2 pot. min bet call was a no brainer.

turn: perfect card obviously. figured to be ahead here, as a made straight wouldn't have let the flush draws get here this cheap. my thinking was that check/raising (another small probe from MP1) would do a better job of indicating my hit 2nd pair. knowing i was up against a possible straight, flush, or straight-flush draw, it was unlikely a larger t400ish raise would get a donk off the hand. i figured t250 gave him the incorrect odds to call either the straight or flush draw - at the same time giving me a little wiggle room on a scary river card (considering my decent chip count). i suppose a turn check/push might have taken it...but with my chips, i really wasn't willing to risk the coin flip (weak i suppose).

river: just a blocking bet. now only two handed, it stood a good chance he simply was on the flush draw. checking here IMO would have set up a scenerio where i'm forced to lay down the best hand perhaps. i had no intention of calling a raise.

<font color="white">MP1 picked up his second pair...K9. he called the turn reraise w/bottom pair + a gutshot....i'll take that </font>

07-22-2005, 05:21 PM
anyone else want to take a crack?