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arod15
07-22-2005, 02:31 PM
50+5 SNG (converter failing me again)
Level 2
Hero is MP (1400)
Villian Button(1650)

All others not important
Hero Dealt K /images/graemlins/heart.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Folded to Hero who raises to 85
Villian Reraises to 200
Hero reraises to 400
Villian reraises to 800
Hero moves all in??? Comments
I hated this hand i got reraised twice!! What is going on? Whats your move? Pushed earlier just called? Results later.

durron597
07-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Don't fold KK preflop ever.

tigerite
07-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Indeed. I saw someone hit quad Ks against AA yesterday. TT came along and hit a set as well, just for fun.

arod15
07-22-2005, 02:36 PM
I did once to 4 people all in in front of me. No way i get into that jungle. Except for freak occurences like that i wouldnt fold it preflop....

durron597
07-22-2005, 02:41 PM
Just grit your teeth and hope he has QQ, JJ, or AK or (and) is an idiot.

arod15
07-22-2005, 02:42 PM
Its disgusting what he had dare to guess.....

1C5
07-22-2005, 02:44 PM
Same exact thing happened to me in a 22 yesterday. It was vs another 2+2er. I had KK and I knew he had AA yet I called anyway. I just couldn't fold KK preflop. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

tigerite
07-22-2005, 02:44 PM
Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif ?

durron597
07-22-2005, 02:45 PM
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Its disgusting what he had dare to guess.....

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72 suited

arod15
07-22-2005, 02:46 PM
He called and flipped over you guessed it

2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
What is going on?
Flop Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Gotta love Party poker that was gross

unreal_nh
07-22-2005, 02:49 PM
i wouldnt be too worried about this hand too much especially against just one opponent. and if he does have AA, which yeah it looks like he might, he sure doesnt do a very good job of disguising it. KK is too good to let go here.

arod15
07-22-2005, 02:50 PM
clearly i would have been a lot happeier to lost to AA
He is the reason i play poker he makes me money. But it was ugly

runner4life7
07-22-2005, 02:51 PM
Dont ever say "gotta love party poker" again or stop posting and reading this site. You are one of "them" and should know better. There is no excuse. If KK was the nuts against 22 they wouldnt deal a flop turn and rivr.

psyduck
07-22-2005, 02:51 PM
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Dont ever say "gotta love party poker" again or stop posting and reading this site. You are one of "them" and should know better. There is no excuse. If KK was the nuts against 22 they wouldnt deal a flop turn and rivr.

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arod15
07-22-2005, 02:54 PM
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Dont ever say "gotta love party poker" again or stop posting and reading this site. You are one of "them" and should know better. There is no excuse. If KK was the nuts against 22 they wouldnt deal a flop turn and rivr.

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Ha ha it was you that had the 2 2 gotta love fish like you. And i was being sarcastic what are you party pokers girl you need to defend them. You must lose a lot of money to party otherwise i dont understand how that joke would upset you.....

Shakespeare
07-22-2005, 02:55 PM
I donít find this gross at all, I would quite enjoy getting all my chips in with 2nd best hand preflop. I find it gross when I donít get any action.

To answer your question, yes I do go all in, I would have personally pushed instead of raising to 400 as long as I think the player is weak.

My push would unfortunately get rid of the better players that can fold QQ and less, so if the player is stronger, your reraise might extract more chips.

Who cares if your opponent has AA, it happens, so does a smaller pair hitting a set, etc, etc. I recently had KK allin preflop with 2 other player, another KK and AA, I hit a flush:)

unreal_nh
07-22-2005, 02:55 PM
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Dont ever say "gotta love party poker" again or stop posting and reading this site. You are one of "them" and should know better. There is no excuse. If KK was the nuts against 22 they wouldnt deal a flop turn and rivr.

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arod15
07-22-2005, 02:56 PM
One more thing this does happen much more on party than anywhere else. Why because more fish and money doesnt feel real. So when i say gotta love party it doesnt mean im saying the site is fixed (cause im sure its not) But there is def going to be more suckouts as people tend to take a lot more chances online than in person. On the flip side this is part of the reason its more profitable. GOTTA LOVE PARTY...

runner4life7
07-22-2005, 02:57 PM
Clearly you are retarded. I was talking about how you think its rigged and must not understand how poker works. Here is a secret...the best hand doesnt always win. This was just your way to post your bad beat. No one cares. Stop crying.

arod15
07-22-2005, 02:59 PM
clearly this hand was about the reraise action to KK and what went through my mind gettting reraised twice. The 22 was just the ending of the story.

arod15
07-22-2005, 03:00 PM
agreed that is why i pushed....

runner4life7
07-22-2005, 03:01 PM
you play the 55s, if you think about folding this then i dont know what else to say...there is no ending needed to ask your question. This is my last post on this thread.

mlagoo
07-22-2005, 03:03 PM
someone call the bad beat police

arod15
07-22-2005, 03:03 PM
Just curious if folding crosses anyones mind. That is why this is a forumn to discuss. Not get mad and attack as you have. I felt sick to my stomach getting reraises as twice i figured i was gone. Did i think about folding it? Not really i wouldnt lay it down unless he showed me it. Then i got happy to see 2 2 and laugghed. Than a 2 hit and i puked and started another one and that was that.

arod15
07-22-2005, 03:05 PM
wasnt that bad. 1-5 times it happens. it was just a little wierd. Who would have guessed 2 2. ....

codewarrior
07-22-2005, 03:10 PM
When you were raised to 200, your reraise to 400 was horrible. This is where you should have pushed.

mlagoo
07-22-2005, 03:10 PM
read the sng faq.

there is never a time to fold KK preflop. especially in online poker. just dont do it.

this question has been asked so many times, in so many different variations... youve just got to trust the people that have been here for a while (not talking about myself), that this isnt an interesting, fresh, or thought-provoking question.

AliasMrJones
07-22-2005, 03:15 PM
I push after the first re-raise by villain. I don't laydown KK pre-flop -- ever. Given the chance, I would always get all-in preflop.

Mr_J
07-22-2005, 03:20 PM
Statistically 22 has as good a chance at outdrawing you as QQ. Sure the guy is a fool, but you are playing poker...

arod15
07-22-2005, 03:21 PM
prob has a better chance than QQ as QQ needs a K to make a straight usually .....

junkmail3
07-22-2005, 03:22 PM
You should be folding KK when you suspect Villian will flop a set. Period.

arod15
07-22-2005, 03:23 PM
I did suspect he would flop one but i went against my instincts....

Sponger15SB
07-22-2005, 03:23 PM
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When you were raised to 200, your reraise to 400 was horrible. This is where you should have pushed.

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I'm suprised it took this long to point that out.

citanul
07-22-2005, 03:26 PM
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When you were raised to 200, your reraise to 400 was horrible. This is where you should have pushed.

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I'm suprised it took this long to point that out.

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thank god you're finally here to set this thread straight.

AliasMrJones
07-22-2005, 03:37 PM
Re-reading this thread I realize this was a thinly disguised bad beat post. Now I wish I hadn't replied.

07-23-2005, 03:29 PM
I disagree, I most likely would have folded this. With the possible combination of him having AA and the fact that this is PP and PP clearly hates you... Sounds like an easy fold to me. I'll fold KK preflop all day.
Then again idk if you want to listen to me my ROI is -34234242%

you [censored] retard

tigerite
07-23-2005, 03:33 PM
Someone actually claimed to have folded KK from his SB, and he had me massively covered, when I pushed from the button. He said something like it was a big bet and he thought an ace would fall as nobody else had bet. God knows what the f*ck he was on about, but it made me laugh.

einbert
07-23-2005, 03:37 PM
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Dont ever say "gotta love party poker"

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ever

seriously

einbert
07-23-2005, 03:39 PM
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When you were raised to 200, your reraise to 400 was horrible.

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seriously

einbert
07-23-2005, 03:41 PM
I have to say that in any kind of tournament situation, the only time I cringe with KK preflop is when everyone else folds.

I have no propensity to put this guy on AA even when he does the stupid reminraising you crap. It's much more likely he's an idiot, IMO, than he actually would play aces exactly this way.