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TWINUNO
07-22-2005, 01:26 PM
HoagieRoller is a real weak player calling raises which are 1/4 of his stack then check folding. What do i do here? Kind of afraid of big stack calling since i wont have much FE

***** Hand History for Game 2404962545 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14154526 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, July 22, 13:21:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 11506 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: HoagieRoller ( $645 )
Seat 4: Fknbucky ( $3830 )
Seat 5: HERO( $825 )
Seat 6: ChairKaga ( $2700 )
Trny:14154526 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO[ Qh Ad ]
HoagieRoller calls [150].
Fknbucky calls [150].

TWINUNO
07-22-2005, 01:35 PM
If HoagieRoller pushes this would be an insta fold right?

Superfluous Man
07-22-2005, 01:38 PM
It rhymes with "fall in."

Edit: Didn't notice that the big stack also called. Hmm. I still like a preflop push because winning the hand would bring you up to T2000 or so and give you a very good chance of getting 1st or 2nd. You're not exactly a lock to sneak into the money as it is.

Of course, I'm assuming AQo is well ahead of the big stack's calling range here, because I'm assuming he's a donk.

jcm4ccc
07-22-2005, 01:39 PM
Stop and Go would be about the worst thing you could do here. You would be pushing into 3 people (I believe Chairkaga is the BB and can just call preflop). It's suicidal to expect that the flop will miss everybody.

So you either want to put in 75 chips and call (but not as a stop and go, but to see if the flop hits you), or push preflop. Pushing preflop is very dangerous. Hoagieroller will likely fold (he'll be hoping that you get knocked out by the big stack) and Fknbucky will likely call. So your life will be on the line, and the short stack can fold into third place if you get knocked out.

Hell, I don't know. Push, call. [censored], damn, [censored]. Life sucks.

I think the way to think about this hand is to pretend that the short stack has folded (because that's what he'll do) and the big stack has limped in. Would you push in that situation? I guess you would. AQ is a powerful hand short-handed.

durron597
07-22-2005, 01:40 PM
You don't care about having a lot FE here because you have actual equity in the fact that your hand is AQ. Just push.

UMTerp
07-22-2005, 01:42 PM
I'd call and see a flop. It's only 75 more chips, right? Push/call an all-in if you flop top pair.

Isura
07-22-2005, 01:48 PM
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If HoagieRoller pushes this would be an insta fold right?

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I don't think so (assuming big stack folds). Hoagie has 4bb, and he's facing the blinds next. I'd definitely call with AQ.

nate_king1
07-22-2005, 01:48 PM
I'd probably push, the both showed calling hands, esspecial the chip leader after somebody limps. Push, they will probably fold is my guess.

schwza
07-22-2005, 02:01 PM
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You don't care about having a lot FE here because you have actual equity in the fact that your hand is AQ. Just push.

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hahaha. i agree.