View Full Version : Too aggresive push when short?

07-22-2005, 04:15 AM
Eurobet $33 sng

Was i too aggresive pushing here from utg? I thought i needed to steal the blinds but i am wondering if this desperate push is needed when it is still 7 handed. Should i just go through the blinds again and hope to steal later?

#Game No : 2402026054
***** Hand History for Game 2402026054 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14138546 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Thursday, July 21, 21:56:44 EDT 2005
Table Table 12943 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: Olback1 ( $945 )
Seat 2: hack83 ( $940 )
Seat 3: stunner316 ( $1187 )
Seat 4: Sarge74 ( $860 )
Seat 5: vipjoe ( $1843 )
Seat 7: mover28 ( $1070 )
Seat 10: eightballjoe ( $1155 )
Trny:14138546 Level:5
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Olback1 [ 8d As ]
Olback1 is all-In [945]
hack83 folds.
stunner316 folds.
Sarge74 is all-In [860]
vipjoe folds.
mover28 folds.
eightballjoe folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Th, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
Olback1 shows [ 8d, As ] two pairs, eights and threes.
Sarge74 shows [ Ac, Qh ] a pair of threes.
Olback1 wins 85 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, eights and threes.
Olback1 wins 1945 chips from the main pot with two pairs, eights and threes.
Sarge74 finished in seventh place.
Sarge74 has left the table.
Game #2402028857 starts.

07-22-2005, 04:50 AM
Nah, pretty standard I would say. Especially with your luckbox plugged in.

07-22-2005, 04:53 AM
I think you should fold with 7 players. You aren't super desperate yet.

07-22-2005, 04:56 AM
Mine was working goot too.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t3095)
MP (t81)
Hero (t1231)
SB (t2000)
BB (t1593)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1231 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t2000 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t3431) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t3431) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t3431) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t3431

07-22-2005, 04:57 AM
I think you should fold with 7 players. You aren't super desperate yet.

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I was being sarcastic, sorry. I agree actually it's a fold. Mine I think is a push though (SB had TT)

07-22-2005, 05:00 AM
Yeah i figured it was marginal but i figured i gave up to much if i folded here. However i think i would be pushing as a small favourite or a big dog and that is what happened.

What sort of hands should i have pushed here?

What is the worst hand you would push here?

07-22-2005, 05:02 AM
In this spot I want a legitimate hand prolly 88+, AJo/ATs.

This is likely too loose.

Also, I would much rather push something like QJs than a bad A here.

07-22-2005, 05:06 AM
I think I would push with 66 and 77 also. Also I think KQs would get shoved. Otherwise pretty much your range.

07-22-2005, 05:07 AM
So i am just a luck box and i should tighten my pushing ranges from positions like this next time?

07-22-2005, 05:23 AM
With 7 left, yeah, I would say so. I ain't checked SNGPT or ICM, but I think it's -EV, with slightly &gt;6BB. I agree about the QJs as well, less likely to be dominated, even better would be T9s though /images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-22-2005, 05:39 AM
You're really not that short. I wouldn't push into everybody without something much bigger. There are several smallish stacks left that you can threaten in a better spot.