View Full Version : Calling K-high 3-way as tall stack

07-22-2005, 02:52 AM
Please confirm that EricKane11's call was retarded. I'm new to shorthanded play, but King-high?

***** Hand History for Game 2403577927 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14147507 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Friday, July 22, 02:41:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 12877 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: HERO ( $2220 )
Seat 9: imperialjon ( $1548 )
Seat 10: EricKane11 ( $4232 )
Trny:14147507 Level:9
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ah 4d ]
HERO is all-In [2220]
imperialjon folds.
EricKane11 calls [1720].
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 3s, 8d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
HERO shows [ Ah, 4d ] three of a kind, aces.
EricKane11 shows [ Kd, 2h ] two pairs, aces and twos.
HERO wins 4690 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.

07-22-2005, 03:01 AM
If you're pushing with a range of (22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s), then a call is only marginally bad (-0.1% $EV diff). Any tighter and it gets progressively worse.

It might be retarded, it might be slightly bad, or it could be brilliant. Depends on what you're pushing.

Getting better than 3-2 on a hand that has a reasonable chance of being the best hand, probably isn't dominated, can't bust and can still win if he loses the hand, and has an excellent shot at first if he wins...I don't make the call, but it's probably not retarded.

07-22-2005, 03:30 AM
I'm kinda new to this, is the above range you mention what I should be considering pushing with?

Or does it just mean that against a very loose pusher I should consider calling with King-rag?

If my above wording was weird, what range should he think I was pushing with if he assumed I was an average/good player (based solely on the fact that I was still in the game w/o displaying any blatant errors).

Please set me straight if I should be, but in this situation I wouldn't even dream of going allin with T8s, QT, JT, J9s, 98s. I was thinking more along the lings of: 88+, A2+, K8+, QJs (iffy), that's all i can think of anyway.

If I'm way off, please set me straight. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

07-22-2005, 03:31 AM
I can't believe you're not pushing 77 here. 77 is so much better than A2 it's insane.

I would push 22+, A2, K6+, QT+.