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07-21-2005, 10:35 AM
OK...this is a BB hand that actually does hit /images/graemlins/smile.gif. Preflop, I know I fold to any raise. On the flop, I know I fold to any raise.

But how much do I bet on the turn? I have the nuts, but it's vulnerable to a club. I bet the pot, but still feel like that's weak. At the same time, overbetting the pot seems wrong too.

And the river: DAMN! The only hands that I was afraid of calling me just hit. I think 100 is an ok bet, might get called by TPTK but a flush will definately raise and I can ditch unscathed. As it stands, everyone folded and I was never going to win/lose much money here; but was my line OK? What is a better one?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 (t460)
CO (t775)
Button (t895)
SB (t785)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t165)
UTG+1 (t1110)
UTG+2 (t770)
MP1 (t1565)
MP2 (t675)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t57.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (t57.50) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, UTG+2 calls t60, MP3 calls t60, SB folds.

River: (t237.50) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: t337.50

07-21-2005, 10:37 AM
River is fine against passive opponents.

If you think your opponents are the type who might try to take the pot away from you if you check to them then check/call the river. Half pot bet on the river is standard for me though.

07-21-2005, 10:54 AM
u bet plenty on the turn...even if u bet 1/2 pot, u'd only give them 3-1 odds to call, which is not enough to call with flush draw (20% or 4-1 odds), so if they call it, they make a mistake, which means u gain...fundamental theorem of poker

if he gets a flush, oh well

so pot was plenty, if not too big...however since pot was only 57, i don't think it's really too big...the fish will see it as 57 more chips, not betting pot to a draw, if they are

07-21-2005, 12:03 PM
your line is fine. i would payoff a small raise on the river.