View Full Version : QTs on the button on the bubble. Short stacked...

07-20-2005, 02:12 PM
Easy fold, given the blind stacks, right?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed)

BB (t3890)
UTG (t600)
Hero (t785)
SB (t2725)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, Hero???

07-20-2005, 02:14 PM
Yup. Pretty much so.

07-20-2005, 05:04 PM
yeah, i'd fold. pretty good chance shorty's going broke next hand on his BB.

07-20-2005, 05:56 PM
Easy fold but if you had this the next hand, when shorty was in the BB, I think it becomes a push.

07-20-2005, 06:02 PM
I usually go ahead and push. I'm probably too aggressive in these spots.

UTG isn't in all that much a worse spot than you and if doubles up you are in trouble. I don't think this is a terribly -EV push and sometimes ICM doesn't really tell the whole story.

07-20-2005, 06:13 PM
It really depends how loose the blinds are. If they are calling with stuff like A3o then its a clear fold. It's hard to get a read in this type situation, but I'd lean towards folding.

For example pushing is -EV against the following range:


I wouldnt be at all shocked if the blinds were that loose....also note that hands like KQo/QJs arent included in that batch and its still -ev.