View Full Version : 109 facing button push.

07-20-2005, 04:28 AM
***** Hand History for Game 2394208613 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:14097656 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Wednesday, July 20, 04:26:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 35018 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Slowmo55 ( $1200 )
Seat 2: Extratopping ( $1260 )
Seat 3: bansheeair1 ( $1285 )
Seat 5: Acehole__69 ( $835 )
Seat 6: jknish2121 ( $1200 )
Seat 7: Red_Orchid ( $1125 )
Seat 9: jerrrio2 ( $935 )
Seat 10: JVIVJJ1I ( $2160 )
Trny:14097656 Level:5
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Extratopping [ As Td ]
Acehole__69 folds.
jknish2121 folds.
Red_Orchid folds.
jerrrio2 folds.
JVIVJJ1I folds.
Slowmo55 is all-In [1200]

07-20-2005, 04:50 AM

07-20-2005, 05:14 AM
sitting to slowmo's left is definately -EV... but call, he is good and is pushing enough hands for you to call here

07-20-2005, 05:19 AM
You need a read on SB here.

07-20-2005, 05:20 AM
he has 8x the BB and assuming he's a good player, his range should be any ace, any pair, any KTo+ (K9o possible too), and any K7s+, and QTs+....this is the minimum his range should be, it could easily be looser.

Against this range it is +1.0 EV for you to call. This is a very tough call to make, but when you know your opponent plays well, you should surely make it.

07-20-2005, 05:21 AM
This is a button push. To fold to the SB would be insane IMO, there are times for reads and there are times where reads can muddle your thinking and cause you to make a very bad play. That's what I'd consider it if you folded to an allin from the SB with ATo in these game conditions.

07-20-2005, 05:26 AM
At an $11, there is a huge reverse gap concept. There is no way many players at the $11 are pushing so many hands out of the SB. (misread the hand)

They're going to autocomplete instead of push/folding. At an $109, this is a much easier call.

Against all good opponents, folding is surely insane. But shortstacked, people are still being LP and minraising fish instead of shoving when they need to.

07-20-2005, 05:58 AM
Yes it's stated somewhere that the button is a solid and aggressive multitabler. I think you can base it on a read when the button pushes and it could be okay to fold against some opponents, but NOT if its a SB vs BB battle. Before I'm going to use reads to sway my decision, it at least has to be a close one to begin with.

07-20-2005, 03:02 PM
I folded but in the future I will call. This is the type of hand I have problems with... making the tought calls on the bubble. Thanks guys

07-20-2005, 05:07 PM
maybe i'm misreading the hh, but it looks like hero is SB and button is pushing. correct?

in that case, i've got to call. it'd be a much tougher choice if there were 4-5 people left intead of 8, but you're going to need to get some chips somewhere.